Why are people bothered about racist remarks aimed at them ?

[rubydazzler]

So in other words, accusing people of being mates on forums just because they hold similar views is an attempt to suppress people with shared views expressing themselves, or an attempt to discredit their views as tactical to avoid addressing them directly?

Exactly my point! Which is the first thing shims did when he arrived, accusing mikmouse of being a 'cheerleader' for someone else. So then mikmouse does the tit for tat, and now the topic has been deflected on something totally different. See how it works? We're all discussing that instead of the topic.

[mikmouse]

Exactly. Its a tactic used by some people when they are unable to address challenges to their arguments.

 

:hihi:

Your priceless.:hihi:

[donkey]

Oh dear:rolleyes:

 

Well you did say this.

 

a quick look at both your post histories tells me you do seem to know each other.

 

And the fact that you had one minute to have your 'quick look' at both our post histories means it can not possibly be true. So what's your point?

[mikmouse]

Well you did say this.

 

 

 

And the fact that you had one minute to have your 'quick look' at both our post histories means it can not possibly be true. So what's your point?

 

Ok then, ill humor you.

I had more than one minute.

I looked the other day.

Sorry to bust your bubble:rolleyes:

[Wildcat]

Exactly my point! Which is the first thing shims did when he arrived, accusing mikmouse of being a 'cheerleader' for someone else. So then mikmouse does the tit for tat, and now the topic has been deflected on something totally different. See how it works? We're all discussing that instead of the topic.

 

You mean this post?

 

Probably because racist remarks were something of an unpleasant 'novelty' to you, whereas for many other people, such verbal abuse, along with being treated with suspicion, being lied to to cause inconvenience, being lied about to provoke hatred from others, getting poor service, being ignored, being passed over in favour of others, even being assaulted, purely based on skin colour would be the sort of discrimination that they, their parents and their grandparents would have had to endure on a regular basis.

 

Your turn of phrase shows that you do not have the foggiest notion what it's like to suffer the real effects of racism, regardless of whatever prejudiced comments you may have received abroad.

 

And that accusation says a great deal about you.

 

Theres probably a lot of truth in that. Ive been racially abused myself and i have to say its not worth getting upset about. I think some have this victim mentality and are always looking to be insulted and obviously theres also cash to be made from such insults.

 

Didn't take long for a cheerleader to appear (a very predictable one)>>

Another person who would always be in the firing line, no doubt.

 

Of course, the fact of the matter is that these people have no need to worry themselves about the occasional prejudiced remarks, simply because racism has no impact at all on their day-to-day well being and therefore their motivation for these comments is highly suspect.

 

Whilst it was in Shims first post on the thread, it was not his first point.

 

Also "cheerleader" was not by my reading of it, used in the sense of any conspiracy, instead it was used to back up the points he had been making about the experience of racism experienced by whites abroad and in the UK is quantitatively different from that experienced by BEMs.

 

I think Shims is right to ask and consider the motivations of people that want to try to draw parallels between racist experiences with a view to discounting the offence felt by others and that your characterising of his post as an appeal to discrediting people because of associations with others is an example of what you are objecting to.

[jongo]

It says for someone without the capacity to feel you do show a lot of emotion on the subject.

 

 

 

 

Why do you care? Water off a ducks back...isn't it?

 

Or is the reality you REALLY do care but hide behind pseudo bravado.

 

If your experience of abuse is so Blasé why do you go on to champion those that are effected by it? After all if you have no concept (which you can't by your own definition) of the pain or misery it can cause, what qualifies you to comment, let alone start a thread.

 

Being a member of Sheffield Forum qualifies me to start a thread.

[jongo]

I give as good as I get, sometimes with a little interest. Can you give me one single example of me starting any bullying?

 

Where as you would never bully anyone or excuse bullies, would you?

 

No.

 

And what about your continuous name calling, which in effect is what this thread is all about.

[rubydazzler]

a lot of quoting ... then ... is an example of what you are objecting to.

I thought it was donkey that was objecting to it? 'cheerleader' is a term used by a certain clique on here, the clique that contains most of the bullies as well, funnily enough. They're almost a flashmob the way they arrive, pile on and then disappear as quickly as they came!

 

Anyway much as I would love to sit here all day, debating how many angels can dance on the head of a pin, or pointing out the ironies in some people's view of the world, I must away!

 

*leaves, blowing air kisses to all participants* Have fun!

[Alien]

Being a member of Sheffield Forum qualifies me to start a thread.

 

Nice evasion...didn't work though.

[Wildcat]

I thought it was donkey that was objecting to it?

 

look back a post, it is mikmouse playing the clique argument:

http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showpost.php?p=6201257&postcount=141

 

'cheerleader' is a term used by a certain clique on here, the clique that contains most of the bullies as well, funnily enough. They're almost a flashmob the way they arrive, pile on and then disappear as quickly as they came!

 

Anyway much as I would love to sit here all day, debating how many angels can dance on the head of a pin, or pointing out the ironies in some people's view of the world, I must away!

 

*leaves, blowing air kisses to all participants* Have fun!

 

So now you are playing the clique argument to distract from the debate.

 

Why is it ok for mikmouse or yourself to do so? but not ok for shims to make the statement he did, which doesn't even play the clique card you condemn it for?