chem1st Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 That statement is ridiculous. How many language degrees have you studied then? And if it depends on whether mistakes affect peoples lives then ambulance technicians should be on the same money then. None, but I can translate about 30 languages to perfection using my mobile by ringing friends. I have family who have done language degrees, nowt special, and it hasn't paid off for them. I know some Eastern Europeans who work in factories for NMW and some speak up to 6 languages. They would gladly teach languages for £10ph. It's handy to know another language, but it is hardly specialised knowledge. Specialised knowledge + language is what you want, the extra language just to gain the edge over your counterparts with only specialised knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Vader Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 None, but I can translate about 30 languages to perfection using my mobile by ringing friends. I have family who have done language degrees, nowt special, and it hasn't paid off for them. I know some Eastern Europeans who work in factories for NMW and some speak up to 6 languages. They would gladly teach languages for £10ph. It's handy to know another language, but it is hardly specialised knowledge. Specialised knowledge + language is what you want, the extra language just to gain the edge over your counterparts with only specialised knowledge. Sorry, but that is absolute garbage. I will bet you that ANY foreign language graduate will know tons more about their studied language than you know about your own. And the money reference, only serves to weaken your argument, as there are Doctors in less developed countries who work for far less than 10 pounds per hour. In fact, the very countries you refer to, supply is with a large proportion of our Doctors on call at weekends, and it pays for them to fly over for the weekend! There was a bit of a stink though when a couple of patients died, due to the language barrier - but languages aren't life and death, are they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daven Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 Good luck to them. But why are teachers paid so low in comparison? Eg a languages teacher would have done a 4year BA including a compulsory year abroad, and then done a year PGCE? Similar working hours, higher stress levels.... How can teaching languages compare to being a doctor? Similar working hours and higher stress levels!!! I doubt there are many language teachers that work 60 hour weeks on the wards (many of those hours may be during the night) and carry the responsibilty of many peoples lives in their hands every second of those 60 hours! Having to make snap decisions every day that could result in someone living or dying............... There is absolutely no comparison! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daven Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 That statement is ridiculous. How many language degrees have you studied then? And if it depends on whether mistakes affect peoples lives then ambulance technicians should be on the same money then. ..................................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcat Posted May 7, 2010 Share Posted May 7, 2010 As should structural engineers. My original question was whether UK PLC can afford such huge payments to public servants, not whether they deserve it. Thoughts? It would damage the consumer economy to cut back on wages, we can't afford not to pay people decent wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masa Posted May 30, 2010 Share Posted May 30, 2010 After studying medicine for 5 years, do few years in training, most of the doctors spend 5-8 years in this sae and doing all sort of shifts, then become a GP. Continuously sudy for live to keep up to date.. etc. The end result is the 70ph. I wonder if some one in any sort of business and working that hard for 13+ years, will he/she be happy with this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longcol Posted May 30, 2010 Share Posted May 30, 2010 My original question was whether UK PLC can afford such huge payments to public servants, not whether they deserve it. Thoughts? Not worked in the NHS for some years now but back in the day a fair few locums - whether GP's or Consultants - were people in private practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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