Homophobe Equalities Minister

[Wildcat]

If somebody is in charge of something, when others are not, then we do not have equality.

 

So what? The issue is equality of opportunity.

[melthebell]

If somebody is in charge of something, when others are not, then we do not have equality.

and then in reality we'll NEVER be 100% equal

 

BUT!!!

 

some people are less equal than others and THAT CAN be changed

[EbonyBranch]

my bold

Yes I have thanks, and they are different issues, so your comparison for the sake of backing your argument up means you have thought it through even less PT...it ain't natural to have same sex parents, I can't see an argument that will change that fact. The idea that two people of the same sex and in a relationship means they have the right to be parents is not one that should be encouraged...IMHO

It 'ain't natural' to live in houses, drive cars, watch telly, or use the internet. Yet here we all are...

 

Also, the argument that kids brought up by same sex couples will be bullied is the same one that used to get rolled out against mixed-race parents; and it was a crap argument then too.

[chem1st]

Section 28 was never about promotion of homosexuality, it was about the banning of any references to homosexuality that did not also condemn it as abnormal.

 

Its intention was to ban books like Jenny live with Eric and Martin.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jenny_lives_with_Eric_and_Martin

 

The consequence of the ban was to legitimise homophobia and stigmatise people for biological factors and parental choices outside their control, to no positive purpose.... indeed only damaging ones.

 

 

Prohibition on promoting homosexuality by teaching or by publishing material

(1)The following section shall be inserted after section 2 of the [1986 c. 10.] Local Government Act 1986 (prohibition of political publicity)—

“2AProhibition on promoting homosexuality by teaching or by publishing material

(1)A local authority shall not—

(a)intentionally promote homosexuality or publish material with the intention of promoting homosexuality;

(b)promote the teaching in any maintained school of the acceptability of homosexuality as a pretended family relationship.

(2)Nothing in subsection (1) above shall be taken to prohibit the doing of anything for the purpose of treating or preventing the spread of disease.

(3)In any proceedings in connection with the application of this section a court shall draw such inferences as to the intention of the local authority as may reasonably be drawn from the evidence before it.

(4)In subsection (1)(b) above “maintained school” means,—

(a)in England and Wales, a county school, voluntary school, nursery school or special school, within the meaning of the Education Act 1944; and

(b)in Scotland, a public school, nursery school or special school, within the meaning of the Education (Scotland) Act 1980.”

(2)This section shall come into force at the end of the period of two months beginning with the day on which this Act is passed.

 

In the name of equlity, Section 28 (1)(a) should be reinstated.

 

Section 28

[chem1st]

So what? The issue is equality of opportunity.

 

I fail to see what opportunity you are saying should be equal for ALL.

[chem1st]

and then in reality we'll NEVER be 100% equal

 

BUT!!!

 

some people are less equal than others and THAT CAN be changed

 

When it is by treating people unequally, it is a waste of time, money and effort, and it defeats the original purpose.

[melthebell]

In the name of equlity, Section 28 (1)(a) should be reinstated.

 

Section 28

 

you mean about promoting homosexuality?

 

i dont believe it should be promoted........it SHOULD be mentioned in sex education classes as well as hetrosexuality as in some people find they are this, but some people find they are like that

[Wildcat]

When it is by treating people unequally, it is a waste of time, money and effort, and it defeats the original purpose.

 

Which is precisely what section 28 is about

[depoix]

she has every right to vote on what she wants....so she doesn't like gays...big deal....

 

exactly ,the whole idea is to be able and free to voice an opinion without being hounded

[chem1st]

Which is precisely what section 28 is about

 

The above comment is adding nothing to the discussion.

 

Section 28 was never about promotion of homosexuality, it was about the banning of any references to homosexuality that did not also condemn it as abnormal.

 

Its intention was to ban books like Jenny live with Eric and Martin.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jenny_lives_with_Eric_and_Martin

 

The consequence of the ban was to legitimise homophobia and stigmatise people for biological factors and parental choices outside their control, to no positive purpose.... indeed only damaging ones.

 

Section 28 (1)(a) = (1)A local authority shall not—

(a)intentionally promote homosexuality or publish material with the intention of promoting homosexuality;

 

Section 28 (1)(a) is the banning of the promotion of homosexuality by local authorities.

 

It has now been repealed. Homosexuality can be promoted in schools. Equality