Big time Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 The reason these criminal illegal immigrants know so much about the system (human rights legislation etc)and how to use it to their advantage, is that there are countless LABOUR lefties that staff all the "advice centres" getting them clued up on it and backing them to the hilt. All right minded people feel anger and despair that the Iraqi illegal immigrant that killed a young girl in a hit and run didn't get deported, while the enemy within - LABOUR lefties, first instinct is to be on his side and do all in their power to prevent him being deported. Poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Shaw Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Do you understand the concept of international pressure? Yes, thanks- but it's not "law" is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Shaw Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Thats what happens when you get a government steeped in lies and skullduggery, and only interested in the furtherance of its cronies wealth. Like that's never happened previously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conrod Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Thats what happens when you get a government steeped in lies and skullduggery, and only interested in the furtherance of its cronies wealth.But they've been out of power now for over a year and the country is still bracing itself to recover from their mismanagement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balpin Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 But they've been out of power now for over a year and the country is still bracing itself to recover from their mismanagement. Only a year? I have been around for 60 years, and never once have we had a decent government. About the only good times for the people were the mid sixties, and that was only because I was a teenager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andygardener Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 I think the tack that May and Cameron are taking on this one is perfectly sensible. The HRA is being exploited by the criminal defence industry as a get out of jail free card and judges seem to fallk for it time after time. There are so many state get out clauses in, for example, article 8 that it should be impossible for any convicted criminal to use to escape deportation. A codified reminder of this to the judicary should hopefully have fatuaous challenges to deportation under the HRA thrown out at the earliest opportunity and no appeal allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hard2miss Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Get the sodding thing buried once and for good. We managed well enough before it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Shaw Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Get the sodding thing buried once and for good. We managed well enough before it. Yes- see my post #61. No-one in the UK needs 'human rights', an artificial construct of an authoritarian mindset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Sleeps Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 No-one in the UK needs 'human rights', an artificial construct of an authoritarian mindset. I don't see it as authoritarian. Infact it was essentially made to be the very opposite. The American Bill of Rights comes from the same ideas, and is something that the Conservatives want in Britain (Link). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitisbad Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Yes, thanks- but it's not "law" is it? Legally we could ignore everythign sent down from europe but in reality it won't happen. anyways parliment makes the law it is for our judges to interpert them, as is the same with parliament interpreting european law into our own system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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