tonkatoy Posted May 27, 2010 Share Posted May 27, 2010 we are not on about comet buying a tv here we are on about selling on here. I think if a non retailer buys it then sells it on after watching it its classed as used. Comet would be a retailer just like a car dealer is and so the car dealers name dosn't go on the log book does it? So by your definition it isn't possible to give anyone anything brand new as a present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingmaker2 Posted May 27, 2010 Share Posted May 27, 2010 in the classifled session we get lots of people saying its brand new only use for a week, here an example title-Brand New 32" LCD HDTV 5 years gaurentee (£235) wording-Here we have a brand new bought only 1 month ago, It's because "Brand New" isn't a term that is universally defined in the same way. "Brand New" could be an unused item, but it also describe a newly acquired item from new (as opposed to second hand). If you are hoping to find products that have been unused then the term would be "Factory sealed". In general conversation you might invite a friend over to watch a movie and tell them that your tv is "brand new"........now that doesn't mean necessarily that the tv that your friend will be invited to view will be taken out of the factory sealed box just prior to you watching the movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingmaker2 Posted May 27, 2010 Share Posted May 27, 2010 if the seller has use it then it is not brand new, Quote "Picture is lovely and Tv is in perfect condition". New means never been use by another consumer Not necessarily, If you had your tv for 5 years, but it has never been used by another consumer then by your definition it would still be new. Again "brand new" is quite a loose term so you shouldn't use it, or expect to use it to exactly described an item. If you are looking for new unused items then "Factory sealed" is the more specific term you need to look for, not "brand new" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyrad29 Posted May 27, 2010 Share Posted May 27, 2010 I thought we were discussing the general principle. What if the retailer is also a person - i.e. it is bought by a sole trader with a shop? I would think a trader who bought for stock wouldnt count as an end user, and if its been used then maybe would be classed as ex demo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyrad29 Posted May 27, 2010 Share Posted May 27, 2010 So by your definition it isn't possible to give anyone anything brand new as a present. well yeah of course it will be new if you havnt used it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonofAna Posted May 27, 2010 Share Posted May 27, 2010 I want to join in so - If I buy a present for someone and want to make sure it works before I give it to them - then the item is no longer something new for them. They would then have to say it was second hand when they got it and not new? Just asking cos it's fun seeing definitions attempted like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonkatoy Posted May 27, 2010 Share Posted May 27, 2010 well yeah of course it will be new if you havnt used it. So in other words if no one has used an item it is brand new. What's all the fuss about then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadingNorth Posted May 27, 2010 Share Posted May 27, 2010 So in other words if no one has used an item it is brand new. What's all the fuss about then? Among other things - What about the factory testers having "used" it to prove it works? What about someone buying a wedding gift and testing it before handing it over? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victoria22 Posted May 27, 2010 Author Share Posted May 27, 2010 So in other words if no one has used an item it is brand new. What's all the fuss about then? but it has been use look at the full advert it shows the tv on Asking price: £235 Condition of item: Excellent Location: S10 Further details Relisting with dropped price. Here we have a brand new bought only 1 month ago, 32 " LCD HDTV. Comes with box and 5 years guarentee with Richer Sounds that runs out on the 11/4/2015. This means that if ever the tv breaks down or anything goes wrong then richer sounds will pick it up from your house and fix it. TV has 2 HDMI ports for blu ray players etc. Built in freeview. Has swivel stand Picture is lovely and Tv is in perfect condition. Wanting £235 please which is a bargain considering it comes with the gaurentee which you wont find with any other TV here. Thanks and feel free to PM me am by the computer practically all day http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/4711/selltv017.jpg http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/1132/selltv018.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandad.Malky Posted May 27, 2010 Share Posted May 27, 2010 What about people that buy a “new” car which as probably been sat in a field near Cleethorpes for six months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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