Rupert_Baehr Posted June 15, 2010 Share Posted June 15, 2010 Fighters weren't considered to be much of a threat to V-Aircraft at high level. If there was only one of them, all you had to do was put the aircraft into a steep turn before he obtained a firing solution (and in the 50s and 60s he didn't have much to get that solution with) and watch him go zooming off into the 'wild blue yonder'. Or alternatively, just climb higher to the places he couldn't reach. The US Deterrent relied on 3 components: Ground-based, sub-surface and air launched. - The argument being 'you might get some, but we will still have plenty left elsewhere.' SAC had a pretty good idea that the Russians might have effective SAMS a couple of years before Gary Powers proved it and they'd already started re-configuring (and modifying the Buff for low-level. The advent of Air-Launched Cruise Missiles gave the B52 a whole new lease of life; you could launch your B52 fleet loaded with ALCMs and pop them off as and when you saw fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harleyman Posted June 15, 2010 Share Posted June 15, 2010 Fighters weren't considered to be much of a threat to V-Aircraft at high level. If there was only one of them, all you had to do was put the aircraft into a steep turn before he obtained a firing solution (and in the 50s and 60s he didn't have much to get that solution with) and watch him go zooming off into the 'wild blue yonder'. Or alternatively, just climb higher to the places he couldn't reach. The US Deterrent relied on 3 components: Ground-based, sub-surface and air launched. - The argument being 'you might get some, but we will still have plenty left elsewhere.' SAC had a pretty good idea that the Russians might have effective SAMS a couple of years before Gary Powers proved it and they'd already started re-configuring (and modifying the Buff for low-level. The advent of Air-Launched Cruise Missiles gave the B52 a whole new lease of life; you could launch your B52 fleet loaded with ALCMs and pop them off as and when you saw fit. The Soviet MIG-15 had a service ceiling of just over 50,000 feet and was superior in performance to the US Starfighter and even the F-86. I dont see how any bomber could climb to any altiitude you name to escape such a fighter. The American fighter pilots however were better trained and because of that had a high kill ratio against the MIG and their North Korean pilots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alastair Posted June 15, 2010 Share Posted June 15, 2010 There was an interesting statistic on the BBC news yesterday. The total oil spill so far from the BP Macondo well is the equivalent of 2.5 hours oil consumption in the USA. From this Reuters report - http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE65A5IA20100611 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harleyman Posted June 15, 2010 Share Posted June 15, 2010 There was an interesting statistic on the BBC news yesterday. The total oil spill so far from the BP Macondo well is the equivalent of 2.5 hours oil consumption in the USA. I'm not surprised. I estimate the square mileage of the US to be around 6,000,000 taking the east to west distance of approx 3,000 by the north to south at around 2,000. The population currently is around 300 million. There are millions of vehicles on the roads at any given time including thousands and thousands of heavy freight trucks carrying goods to locations all over the country. In addition there are hundreds of diesel/electric freight trains criss-crossing the country every day doing the same thing. Add a few thousand passenger jets landing and taking off every day also. Several million homes in the eastern and mid western parts of the US rely on fuel oil to heat their homes several months of the year and of course dont forget all the power generation plants located in a country this size. Yes there is a demand for oil and will be for years to come until there is a viable and workable alternative source of power. Let's hope there's a budding Edison who at this moment is working in his garage somewhere to develop the Ultimate Super Battery Power Pack the size of a lap top that can power a vehicle of any size for a distance of 500-600 miles and can be recharged in about 5 minutes, also environmentally safe and clean and easily disposable after a life span of 10 years. Not too tall an order is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert_Baehr Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 The Soviet MIG-15 had a service ceiling of just over 50,000 feet and was superior in performance to the US Starfighter and even the F-86. I dont see how any bomber could climb to any altiitude you name to escape such a fighter... How very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 Don't know who's seen this site. http://www.ifitwasmyhome.com/ It really puts the BP oil spill in perspective. Shocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harleyman Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 How very interesting. It's all on the Net. Just type in MIG-15 and hit search Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alien Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 It's all on the Net. Just type in MIG-15 and hit search Dammit Harleyman...you just burst me bubble. I thought it was all in yer head. I was almost swooning at you.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harleyman Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 Dammit Harleyman...you just burst me bubble. I thought it was all in yer head. I was almost swooning at you.. You finally know the ugly truth old buddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadnBad Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 I'm not surprised. I estimate the square mileage of the US to be around 6,000,000 taking the east to west distance of approx 3,000 by the north to south at around 2,000. The population currently is around 300 million. There are millions of vehicles on the roads at any given time including thousands and thousands of heavy freight trucks carrying goods to locations all over the country. In addition there are hundreds of diesel/electric freight trains criss-crossing the country every day doing the same thing. Add a few thousand passenger jets landing and taking off every day also. Several million homes in the eastern and mid western parts of the US rely on fuel oil to heat their homes several months of the year and of course dont forget all the power generation plants located in a country this size. Yes there is a demand for oil and will be for years to come until there is a viable and workable alternative source of power. Let's hope there's a budding Edison who at this moment is working in his garage somewhere to develop the Ultimate Super Battery Power Pack the size of a lap top that can power a vehicle of any size for a distance of 500-600 miles and can be recharged in about 5 minutes, also environmentally safe and clean and easily disposable after a life span of 10 years. Not too tall an order is it? The real electrical genius you are looking for is called Nikola Tesla and he already did the above the only problem is that how he did it is a secret that died with him or was stolen by the american government and hushed up. http://keelynet.com/energy/teslcar.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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