White South African farmers/murdered

[Highfields]

Indeed and attributable in the main to diseases such as AIDS and TB, both of which are treatable, if there were access to healthcare and affordable drug treatments, which is not the case in SA.

Why? South Africa is rich just as Zimbabwe was, it isn't the whites who're taking SA down the pan, it wasn't the whites who've taken Zimbabwe to bankruptcy.

Get Real for heavens sake.

[Highfields]

Yes I can see that this started going wrong because we were responding to 2 different things, and the fact that the black population is not an indigenous population.

 

As a South African I am saddened by the fact that things in the country are not going to plan. But that can be no excuse for murder. Most of the black/coloured population is no more indigenous than the white population and have no more right to the land. Most arrived into Apartheid South Africa as economic migrants because even under Apartheid they enjoyed a better standard of living than they could get elsewhere in Africa.

 

The life expectancy that you referred to is largely as a result of Jacob Zuma's continued denial of the HIV/AIDS virus, and his refusal to act to stem its spread. Life expectancy amongst many groups (particularly black) in RSA is now considerably lower than it was 30 years ago.

It's very good to see someone who actualy knows the true stuation and says it as it is.

The living standards of Black people in SA were the best in Africa under Apartheid, this was according to figures issued by the UN.

Zimbabwe was the 'Bread Basket of Africa' once look at it now.

[Halibut]

It's very good to see someone who actualy knows the true stuation and says it as it is.

The living standards of Black people in SA were the best in Africa under Apartheid, this was according to figures issued by the UN.

Zimbabwe was the 'Bread Basket of Africa' once look at it now.

 

Are you suggesting that apartheid was a good thing?

[Highfields]

I don't think them being white or black has anything to do with it, .

Really:-

White Genocide in South Africa continues - Kill the boer, kill the farmer shouted outside school, Pretoria name to change

 

Wake up smell the coffee.

[Highfields]

Are you suggesting that apartheid was a good thing?

Are you saying what Robert MgGabe (spelling) has done to Zimbabwe is a good thing?

[boyfriday]

Really:-

White Genocide in South Africa continues - Kill the boer, kill the farmer shouted outside school, Pretoria name to change

 

Wake up smell the coffee.

 

Read my post again. I was referring to the media coverage/public response, not the crime.

[Highfields]

The claim is that 3000 farmers have been killed in SA, since Mandela took power 16 years ago, that's terrible, but it makes no fewer headlines than the fact 5 million of the population carries the AIDS virus or 50 people are murdered there every day, these factors affect mainly black South Africans.

 

The sad truth is that SA like most if not all African countries that have gained independence will, despite the sound economical state it found itself in when white rule ended continue going down the pan whilst like so many African independent states it wollows in corruption.

South Africa like Rhodesia and Kenya was and still should be a very rich country.

 

Nigeria has oil but just look at the state of the place.

 

This is not a racist response this is a realist response. Black Africans do not seem able to manage their own affairs, blaming ans murdering Whites will not cure the problem it just masks it.

[boyfriday]

It's very good to see someone who actualy knows the true stuation and says it as it is.

The living standards of Black people in SA were the best in Africa under Apartheid, this was according to figures issued by the UN.

Zimbabwe was the 'Bread Basket of Africa' once look at it now.

 

So would you relinquish your freedom to vote, access to higher education and self determination, if Abu Hamza promised you a higher standard of living?

[Halibut]

Are you saying what Robert MgGabe (spelling) has done to Zimbabwe is a good thing?

 

No, obviously not. You seemed to to imply that everyone was better off under aparteid, therefore I'm asking you directly if you thought it was a good thing.

[boyfriday]

This is not a racist response this is a realist response. Black Africans do not seem able to manage their own affairs, blaming ans murdering Whites will not cure the problem it just masks it.

Whether black Africans are able to manage their affairs or not is not the issue, in a democracy everyone has the opportunity to vote, under apartheid that was not the case.

 

By the way, I haven't condoned what is happening to the white farmers, it is absolutely wrong.