azazel666 Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 Unbelievable that the report shows that Mr McGuinness was walking around Londonderry with a machine gun. He has been on the news today stating how pleased he is with the same report....................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alien Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 I do think the enquiry does sum it up nicely, leaving no ambiguity to the actions of the soldiers, the actions of the IRA and the actions of the civilians. I think that all sides need to accept the reports findings, this is what the PM read in the house of commons today. I am afraid the excuse of only being human just doesn't wash. I'll probably get pinned to the wall on this but...for once in a long time I'm actually pleased with the governments announcement. We made a mistake and we've put our hands in the air, how rare is that? I just hope those that pulled the trigger are not brought to book as scapegoats. The lads on the ground took orders...that's what they do. Their commanding officers are to blame. Their the one's that lost it IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superstar1 Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 I'll probably get pinned to the wall on this but...for once in a long time I'm actually pleased with the governments announcement. We made a mistake and we've put our hands in the air, how rare is that? I just hope those that pulled the trigger are not brought to book as scapegoats. The lads on the ground took orders...that's what they do. Their commanding officers are to blame. Their the one's that lost it IMO. yes i agree after all the government let hundreds of IRA and unionist 'soldiers/terrorists' out of prison during the making of the peace process, so we should let these soldiers (who will be in there 60s now) live in peace however now the truth is out it wont take long for someone involved to write a book £££ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
depoix Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 They may have possibly held strong views and that does not make them guilty enough to be summarily killed. The dead were all unarmed and innocent civilians. are you one hundred percent certain of that a known tactic of the i r a was to mix in with a crowd open fire on our troops then dissapear into the crowd ,should he have been hit his weapon was always picked up to be returned to the i r a by some member of the crowd now, shots fired, shots returned, person seen with weapon fired at by troops doesnt that sound about right no summary execution just self defence and firing toward armed mob member, thats more like the actual truth the army laid downtear gas to disperse the mob and overlayed the gas with smoke to keep it at street level if they had wanted a confrontation surely they wouldnt have tried to break up the mob but would have rather let them carry on coming forward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrobbo Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 are you one hundred percent certain of that a known tactic of the i r a was to mix in with a crowd open fire on our troops then dissapear into the crowd ,should he have been hit his weapon was always picked up to be returned to the i r a by some member of the crowd now, shots fired, shots returned, person seen with weapon fired at by troops doesnt that sound about right no summary execution just self defence and firing toward armed mob member, thats more like the actual truth the army laid downtear gas to disperse the mob and overlayed the gas with smoke to keep it at street level if they had wanted a confrontation surely they wouldnt have tried to break up the mob but would have rather let them carry on coming forward You are re-writing history depoix (btw, nice to see you back posting ). See Post No 20 - in case you missed it. Bloody Sunday was the British equivalent of the Sharpeville massacre. The Saville Inquiry report is thorough and exonerates those killed by British troops. Despite the time and money spent on conducting this Inquiry, there is no time limit or price on truth and justice. Given that policing powers have only recently been devolved to Stormont - the final act in bringing peace to Northern Ireland, let us hope that the Saville Inquiry will now bring closure for the families of those killed in Bloody Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halibut Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 are you one hundred percent certain of that a known tactic of the i r a was to mix in with a crowd open fire on our troops then dissapear into the crowd ,should he have been hit his weapon was always picked up to be returned to the i r a by some member of the crowd now, shots fired, shots returned, person seen with weapon fired at by troops doesnt that sound about right no summary execution just self defence and firing toward armed mob member, thats more like the actual truth the army laid downtear gas to disperse the mob and overlayed the gas with smoke to keep it at street level if they had wanted a confrontation surely they wouldnt have tried to break up the mob but would have rather let them carry on coming forward The report is unequivocal - 'None of the casualties was posing a threat or doing anything that would justify their shooting'. There is, I believe, reference in the report to the IRA having fired one shot that day in Derry. It missed and was fired after the army ha opened fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipex Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 1..No Im not Im suggesting reasons why the soldiers retaliated 2.I dont understand this ,is it concerning being under fire your answer baffles me ,quite a few soldiers had been killed well before Bloody Sunday 3.Insults again very childish 4.read the posts I said nothing of the report Same people picking on you from a previous thread i see noddy lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoddyHolder Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 Your prob with tab1 is your problem. No..just his anti British and racist views which you and others somehow fail/refuse to see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoddyHolder Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 Same people picking on you from a previous thread i see noddy lol. I think they love me really,they're just scared to admit it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treatment Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 Strange how they '' fired at random into a peaceful demonstration '' - but all the 14 who died were male. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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