ben280489 Posted June 18, 2010 Author Share Posted June 18, 2010 no wonder you havnt got a job, if you cant make 'one' appointment every other week! Try work for a living then you know what hard work really means lol i have had many jobs before. my last job i was self employed, for nearly 2 years before work seemed to dry up. at that point i spent weeks trying to drum up more business without success, and have been forced to sign on while looking for a job, the sector where i used to work will not pick up for some time. as for making 1 appointment every other week. i have never failed before and it was circumstances beyond my control that caused me to miss this one. but it is nice of you to assume just because i claim JSA that i have never had a job and dont know what its like to work for a living. not that i would call £51 per week a "living". more like "survival". i am not entitled to any other benefits that some people are lucky enough to recieve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben280489 Posted June 18, 2010 Author Share Posted June 18, 2010 I'm on jobseekers and NOWHERE does it say you need to inform them if you leave the city for a day. Stop exaggerating. And if the Tories botch up the public sector then NO-ONE would get benefits at all. Even those who are geniunely disabled and can't work, or those who are geniunely looking for work (like me and, I'm guessing, yourself). Be careful what you wish for. And I agree with victoria22 for the first half at least... you need to take a look at the inside of the little booklet you have which tells you what time you need to sign on and on what day... you will find the quote i published early that clearly says you have to inform the job centre if you or your partner are "going away from home, even for one day". so no my friend, i am not exaggerating, nor am i making it up. go read your own booklet, its there in black and white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben280489 Posted June 18, 2010 Author Share Posted June 18, 2010 (My Bold) Issue is you didn't turn up as required......helping an old lady or not. The reason they asked where you were, what you were doing is so you could try and give a reason for the decision maker. Oh and thanks for the snap judgement on my IQ......Shame you couldn't focus your own intelligence in arranging your obligations. Yes your right i should not have used the word idiot. Sorry. I have no idea what your IQ is, nor do i care. You just appear to be frustratingly biased with a lack of common sense or sympathy to what is a bad situation. You have a lot in common with the staff at the job centre, and many other government departments. And your right in saying i did not turn up "as required", but i did let them know i could not make it and why i could not make it and they are fine with that. Its not the issue. I was due to sign on just after 4pm on wednesday. i called them the second i knew it would be impossible for me to make it. I then turned up at 9am the next morning to sign on, and then they took issue with the fact i left sheffield without telling them, and now want to stop me a weeks JSA. It has nothin to do with the fact i could not make the appointment. It is all down to me leaving sheffield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigmason Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 If the stop your dole go to your local unemployed workers centre your nearest one is in chesterfield they provide these services Benefit checks Completion of claim forms Liaising with DWP/Inland Revenue/Local Authorities Representation at benefit tribunal Take up campaigns On-site redundancy advice contact details Tel: 01246 231441 Email: info@duwc.org.uk Derbyshire Unemployed Workers' Centres 70 Saltergate, Chesterfield, S40 1JR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joanl Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 With the work situation being so precarious as it is at the moment I don't know how anyone can be so arragant as to think that unemployment will never affect them. I remember a similiar occasion to the OP's when after a long sit in the jobcentre, I came out, went into a phone box to phone my oh to tell him I wouldn't be getting any dole money at that time and although normally a very placid easy going sort of person, I could have willingly and easily put my fist through every single pane of glass in there. This was at least 20 years ago now but flippin eck, nothing changes it seems. Good luck to the op, hope something comes up soon and to the knockers, don't be too complacent, it could happen to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul2412 Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 Personally I think they do right. Not saying you are, but so many people seem to cheat the system that they have to start getting stricter. To me, it seems a little odd that you have an appointment with the job centre and so decide to go off to Manchester for the day. You say the relatives are on holiday, why didn't you arrange to help her with her shopping on another day? You knew the relatives were going on holiday, if they couldn't make it for some unexpected reason and your gran was in danger then I'd understand it. If you can't get to an appointment once every 2 weeks then they do right to consider whether you are entitled to receive the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben280489 Posted June 18, 2010 Author Share Posted June 18, 2010 If the stop your dole go to your local unemployed workers centre your nearest one is in chesterfield they provide these services Benefit checks Completion of claim forms Liaising with DWP/Inland Revenue/Local Authorities Representation at benefit tribunal Take up campaigns On-site redundancy advice contact details Tel: 01246 231441 Email: info@duwc.org.uk Derbyshire Unemployed Workers' Centres 70 Saltergate, Chesterfield, S40 1JR thanks for that information, i will save it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben280489 Posted June 18, 2010 Author Share Posted June 18, 2010 Personally I think they do right. Not saying you are, but so many people seem to cheat the system that they have to start getting stricter. To me, it seems a little odd that you have an appointment with the job centre and so decide to go off to Manchester for the day. You say the relatives are on holiday, why didn't you arrange to help her with her shopping on another day? You knew the relatives were going on holiday, if they couldn't make it for some unexpected reason and your gran was in danger then I'd understand it. If you can't get to an appointment once every 2 weeks then they do right to consider whether you are entitled to receive the money. Ok i will repeat it again... THE SITUATION HAS GOT NOTHING AT ALL TO DO WITH THE FACT I COULD NOT MAKE MY SIGN ON TIME. IT HAPPENS!!! THINGS COME UP!!! The issue here is that i "went away from home" without telling the job centre. That is what they are persuing here. They are basically saying that because i went to manchester for a few hours without telling them.. that i was not available for work from the 10th of June til the 16th of June. That is what they are saying, they are trying to stop my payment for the above reason. I REPEAT IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE FACT I COULD NOT MAKE MY USUAL SIGN ON APPOINTMENT. I am not cheating the system, i am a genuine claimant, who is been subjected to pathetic treatment by a bunch of pen pushing nobodies who are lucky to be in a job at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treatment Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 Write to your MP, that usually gets their bowels moving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben280489 Posted June 18, 2010 Author Share Posted June 18, 2010 Write to your MP, that usually gets their bowels moving. I might just do that if they do actually stop my payments. But the problem is this is sheffield. And my MP is a labour MP. The system that is in place right now, is a labour party creation. I doubt he will have much sympathy. Champange socialists never do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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