Would You Like to Live in North Korea?

[JFKvsNixon]

There is always that mindset that China would go to war to defend North Korea but modern China is far more concerned about developing it's trade with the rest of the world and moving into world power status rather than risk losing everything in a massive and inevitably destructive war

 

The Chinese aren't stupid however and they know that North Korea is led by an unbalanced semi lunatic and if North Korea were to do anything rash the Chinese would intervene pretty fast to check them.

 

In the meantime for whatever purposes it suits them the Chinese are content to let North Korea be.

 

I wouldn't discount the sentimentality that the Chinese feel towards the North Koreans.

[IVAN LILLEY]

There are a few left wing people on here so how many of you would like to take the plung and defect to North Korea?

 

It is a truely Socialist state run along Marxist/Lenninist/ Stalinist lines. Apparently the Dear Leader cares very much for his people and they are going to win the World Cup (North Korean TV will announce that shortly).

 

has nobody see team america?

[Rupert_Baehr]

The Chinese and the North Koreans are still allies, but it seems that North Korea is acting a bit like a teenager. Kim Il Yong or Kevin Il Yong?

 

" "For the Chinese, stability and the avoidance of war are the top priorities," says Daniel Sneider, the associate director for research at Stanford's Asia-Pacific Research Center. "From that point of view, the North Koreans are a huge problem for them, because Pyongyang could trigger a war on its own." The specter of hundreds of thousands of North Korean refugees flooding into China is a huge worry for Beijing. "The Chinese are most concerned about the collapse of North Korea leading to chaos on the border," CFR's Segal says. If North Korea does provoke a war with the United States, China and South Korea would bear the brunt of any military confrontation on the Korean peninsula. Yet both those countries have been hesitant about pushing Pyongyang too hard, for fear of making Kim's regime collapse. The flow of refugees into China is already a problem: China has promised Pyongyang that it will repatriate North Koreans escaping across the border, but invites condemnation from human rights groups when sending them back to the DPRK. Jing-dong Yuan of the Center for Nonproliferation Studies in California says Beijing began its construction of a barbed wire fence along this border in 2006 for that reason."ese, stability and the avoidance of war are the top priorities," says Daniel Sneider, the associate director for research at Stanford's Asia-Pacific Research Center. "From that point of view, the North Koreans are a huge problem for them, because Pyongyang could trigger a war on its own." The specter of hundreds of thousands of North Korean refugees flooding into China is a huge worry for Beijing. "The Chinese are most concerned about the collapse of North Korea leading to chaos on the border," CFR's Segal says. If North Korea does provoke a war with the United States, China and South Korea would bear the brunt of any military confrontation on the Korean peninsula. Yet both those countries have been hesitant about pushing Pyongyang too hard, for fear of making Kim's regime collapse. The flow of refugees into China is already a problem: China has promised Pyongyang that it will repatriate North Koreans escaping across the border, but invites condemnation from human rights groups when sending them back to the DPRK. Jing-dong Yuan of the Center for Nonproliferation Studies in California says Beijing began its construction of a barbed wire fence along this border in 2006 for that reason."

[Harleyman]

The Chinese and the North Koreans are still allies, but it seems that North Korea is acting a bit like a teenager. Kim Il Yong or Kevin Il Yong?

 

" "For the Chinese, stability and the avoidance of war are the top priorities," says Daniel Sneider, the associate director for research at Stanford's Asia-Pacific Research Center. "From that point of view, the North Koreans are a huge problem for them, because Pyongyang could trigger a war on its own." The specter of hundreds of thousands of North Korean refugees flooding into China is a huge worry for Beijing. "The Chinese are most concerned about the collapse of North Korea leading to chaos on the border," CFR's Segal says. If North Korea does provoke a war with the United States, China and South Korea would bear the brunt of any military confrontation on the Korean peninsula. Yet both those countries have been hesitant about pushing Pyongyang too hard, for fear of making Kim's regime collapse. The flow of refugees into China is already a problem: China has promised Pyongyang that it will repatriate North Koreans escaping across the border, but invites condemnation from human rights groups when sending them back to the DPRK. Jing-dong Yuan of the Center for Nonproliferation Studies in California says Beijing began its construction of a barbed wire fence along this border in 2006 for that reason."ese, stability and the avoidance of war are the top priorities," says Daniel Sneider, the associate director for research at Stanford's Asia-Pacific Research Center. "From that point of view, the North Koreans are a huge problem for them, because Pyongyang could trigger a war on its own." The specter of hundreds of thousands of North Korean refugees flooding into China is a huge worry for Beijing. "The Chinese are most concerned about the collapse of North Korea leading to chaos on the border," CFR's Segal says. If North Korea does provoke a war with the United States, China and South Korea would bear the brunt of any military confrontation on the Korean peninsula. Yet both those countries have been hesitant about pushing Pyongyang too hard, for fear of making Kim's regime collapse. The flow of refugees into China is already a problem: China has promised Pyongyang that it will repatriate North Koreans escaping across the border, but invites condemnation from human rights groups when sending them back to the DPRK. Jing-dong Yuan of the Center for Nonproliferation Studies in California says Beijing began its construction of a barbed wire fence along this border in 2006 for that reason."

 

 

 

Makes you wonder why China with all it's new found wealth doesn't invest in the country. It's only a matter of time before Chinese cars will be manufactured in US factories just as US and European cars are built in China so why dont they open such factories in North Korea. Even if most North Koreans are too poor to buy them they could be exported to other Asian countries. Keeping people in jobs would maybe keep the N Koreans at home

[Rupert_Baehr]

Makes you wonder why China with all it's new found wealth doesn't invest in the country. It's only a matter of time before Chinese cars will be manufactured in US factories just as US and European cars are built in China so why dont they open such factories in North Korea. Even if most North Koreans are too poor to buy them they could be exported to other Asian countries. Keeping people in jobs would maybe keep the N Koreans at home

 

I suspect that the Chinese prefer to use that new found wealth to provide jobs for their newly-bred people. They have said that they need an annual increase in their economy of more than 6% just to stand still.

 

My wife's Chinese car was made in Belgium. It's a Geely XC-60. The main market for Geelys is the US. I would be very surprised if the Chinese didn't use their European car factories (particularly the Belgian factory and the one in Gothenburg) to develop technology (and to supply the European and US markets) and then set up additional factories in China to supply the Asian market.

[Magilla]

There is always that mindset that China would go to war to defend North Korea but modern China is far more concerned about developing it's trade with the rest of the world and moving into world power status rather than risk losing everything in a massive and inevitably destructive war

 

The words nail, head, hit spring to mind.

 

The Chinese aren't stupid however and they know that North Korea is led by an unbalanced semi lunatic and if North Korea were to do anything rash the Chinese would intervene pretty fast to check them.

 

In the meantime for whatever purposes it suits them the Chinese are content to let North Korea be.

 

1... The second anything kicks off, they'll have several millions of refugee's crossing the border into China, who're so backwards and poorly educated they're essentially useless. A major drain on already limited resources.

 

2... Another Korean war would almost certainly be won by the south, with the help of most of the western world. This would remove the natural barrier to a pro-american, pro-democracy S.Korea that N.Korea provides.

[Harleyman]

I suspect that the Chinese prefer to use that new found wealth to provide jobs for their newly-bred people. They have said that they need an annual increase in their economy of more than 6% just to stand still.

 

My wife's Chinese car was made in Belgium. It's a Geely XC-60. The main market for Geelys is the US. I would be very surprised if the Chinese didn't use their European car factories (particularly the Belgian factory and the one in Gothenburg) to develop technology (and to supply the European and US markets) and then set up additional factories in China to supply the Asian market.

 

never heard of or seen one of those which is surprising since just about every car manufactured anywhere can be seen in southern Califonia with the exception of the Indian car which will no doubt make it's appearance sooner or later.

 

When I was in China back in 08 there were Buicks everywhere. The Chinese love them, the VW is also very popular used by the Beijing police and Hyundai I would say comes in third.

 

The tour buses we went around on were all Chinese made but with manual gear shifts although they were all modern otherwise.

 

I had to admire the drivers. Anyone who could handle a stick shift on vehicles that size and the horrendous Beijing traffic at the same time is a truly special person and not surprisingly the Chinese tourist department require them to pass a lot of tests before they're given the much prized license to drive tour buses

[Harleyman]

The words nail, head, hit spring to mind.

 

 

 

1... The second anything kicks off, they'll have several millions of refugee's crossing the border into China, who're so backwards and poorly educated they're essentially useless. A major drain on already limited resources.

 

2... Another Korean war would almost certainly be won by the south, with the help of most of the western world. This would remove the natural barrier to a pro-american, pro-democracy S.Korea that N.Korea provides.

 

So it's obvious that North Korea is as much a problem to the Chinese as it is to the rest of us. What makes it worse is that there are no indications of any internal dissent in N Korea. The Dear Leader and his repressive regime have the whole country tightly sewn up.

[SAFRON]

the way communist countries are set up, you cant truly enjoy it unless you are one of the community. in capitalist countries, all you need is money, and you can go to any random capitalist country and be treated like a king, but under communism its quite different. i must say though, i expect north korean people to be much kinder than south koreans.