slimsid2000 Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 According to some people on this forum drugs are emdemic in our nightclubs. Personally I have never experienced them at all but then my own clubbing experience is limited. If drugs are so common in our clubs then why do the police not do more to catch the culprits? Surley it is possible to have one or two plain clothes officers in selected venues on a Friday/saturday night keeping an eye out. If they spot anything they can radio/call for re-enforcments and make some arrests. I occasionally hear about police raids on clubs but these seem pretty few and far between. Oh and before anyone says waht about tax payers money - yes it would cost a bit but then are not decent law abiding clubers also tax payers and do they not have the right to go for a night out in a drug free environment? Your thoughts please. I would be especially interested to get replies from any police officers as to why the police do not devote more resources to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discodown Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 Because theres rarely violence and problems in clubs where drug taking is more likely to be prevelant than drinking. (I realise Niche is going to be cited as the exception to this rule) Therefore theres really no need to be arresting people who are just going about their weekend and not harming anyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimsid2000 Posted July 8, 2010 Author Share Posted July 8, 2010 Because theres rarely violence and problems in clubs where drug taking is more likely to be prevelant than drinking. (I realise Niche is going to be cited as the exception to this rule) Therefore theres really no need to be arresting people who are just going about their weekend and not harming anyone Well if people are breaking the law then they ought to be arrested. And as for no link between violence and drugs that's rubbish. There have been many occasions of drug related violence, drugs wars, shooting stabbings etc. Violence and drugs are very much related. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kthebean Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 Violence and drug dealing are very much linked. Violence and drug taking are very much not linked. The police are very harsh on drug dealing in clubs they have lots of operations and work closely with club owners to prevent it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neeeeeeeeeek Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 Drugs are in clubs, loads of them from legal highs and pills through to coke and ket. The police have better things to do, clubs have security, the police will attend if they are called but the clubs can generally monitor themselves. The police are usually pretty busy dealing with the fallout form the legal drug alcohol, you are probably aware of that one. The police also know that clubs where people have been taking drugs are usually happier, more friendly and safer than clubs full of drunken people so I think you will find that your average copper is not concerned about someone who have taken a pill or two. If you have not had a problem with drugs in clubs then what is your issue? A massive percentage of clubbers are not the law abiding citizens you make them out to be as a massive percentage will have taken drugs. What exactly is your issue? If you have never knowingly had any contact with people who have taken drugs then what is the difference for you between a normal club and a club where nobody has taken any drugs? Come on sid, answer a question for a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discodown Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 Well if people are breaking the law then they ought to be arrested. And as for no link between violence and drugs that's rubbish. There have been many occasions of drug related violence, drugs wars, shooting stabbings etc. Violence and drugs are very much related.Then should they arrest the bar staff who are serving alcohol to people who are drunk? Take everyones age inside the club and arrest the owners if theres someone under 18? Theres little or no point arresting someone who is taking ecstacy or a speed or even a toot of coke. They aren't dealing, they aren't harming anyone, its pretty much a victimless crime and i'm pretty sure the police have got many more things they could be doing like arresating people who are drunk who are causing carnage in city centres and really are commiting serious crimes. There may be drug related violence between gangs and criminals and dealers trying to make profit from it but I have never, ever in almost 20 years of clubbing seen anyone on ecstacy or cannibis or coke or speed glass someone and start a fight. I have witnessed plenty of drunks do this however. Should we ban alcohol? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimsid2000 Posted July 8, 2010 Author Share Posted July 8, 2010 Violence and drug dealing are very much linked. Violence and drug taking are very much not linked. The police are very harsh on drug dealing in clubs they have lots of operations and work closely with club owners to prevent it. Both drug dealing and taking are illegal as far as I am aware and the two depend upon each other so it is a pretty sillly argument to try and seperate them. As for what the police already do I ma not aware of it all but I am just of the opinion that more could be done and that bar/club owners are not entirely 100% committed (notice the bathos) to stopping drugs on their premises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neeeeeeeeeek Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 In case you missed it sid I pose a question. If you have never knowingly had any contact with people who have taken drugs then what is the difference for you between a normal club and a club where nobody has taken any drugs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul2412 Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 During my days of going to Gatecrasher, drugs were all over the place. I was probably in the minority for not taking them. There was never any violence, and everyone was friendly (I went most weeks for 5 years). You can't say the same about Embrace on a Saturday night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magilla Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 If drugs are so common in our clubs then why do the police not do more to catch the culprits? Because the police know full well that the problems with drugs are largely caused by their criminality, and that 99.9% of cases of people using recreational drugs in nightclubs, there will be no harm done. They also know that there are plenty of other far far worse crimes that need their attention. Surley it is possible to have one or two plain clothes officers in selected venues on a Friday/saturday night keeping an eye out. If they spot anything they can radio/call for re-enforcments and make some arrests. Ofcourse they could, but then who would pay for it? Oh and before anyone says waht about tax payers money - yes it would cost a bit but then are not decent law abiding clubers also tax payers and do they not have the right to go for a night out in a drug free environment? Ofcourse not, clubs sell alcohol, a drug that is proven to be more harmful than alot of recreational drugs. If you can find a night club that doesn't specifically rely on drugs as part of their business, you'll be the only person there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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