mh01 Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 The police are trained to deal with people who antagonise them. The training does not include shoving someone to the ground with a lethal force.he wasnt shoved to the ground with lethal force. from what i saw he got up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splodgeyAl Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 You keep saying he was just strolling past on his way home He was out to antagonize the police as much as he could. And we've also previously agreed that a dead man cannot explain his motivations. We can speculate if we want. I never mentioned where I thought he was heading, just that, as can be seen, he was strolling with his hands in his pockets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jongo Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 And we've also previously agreed that a dead man cannot explain his motivations. We can speculate if we want. I never mentioned where I thought he was heading, just that, as can be seen, he was strolling with his hands in his pockets. And the confrontation with the riot van ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jongo Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 he wasnt shoved to the ground with lethal force. from what i saw he got up Yeah and he then walked a lot faster to the protesters, not the way he was supposed to be walking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neeeeeeeeeek Posted July 23, 2010 Author Share Posted July 23, 2010 You keep saying he was just strolling past on his way home He was out to antagonize the police as much as he could. You keep saying we don't know what happened before etc etc but you claim that he was antagonizing the police as much as he could. Make your mind up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number Six Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 He didnt stumble on the video, he walked briskly past the cameraman!!! He walked.That's adrenaline for you. Shoot an animal and unless you kill it outright, chances are it will run. It'll die soon enough of it's injuries though, as did Mr Tomlinson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jongo Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 You keep saying we don't know what happened before etc etc but you claim that he was antagonizing the police as much as he could. Make your mind up! Read the reports, look at the pictures! Of course these were not provided by the protesters and show the opposite of what this man is believed to be so you wont be bothered will you ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number Six Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 he wasnt shoved to the ground with lethal force. from what i saw he got up And died a few minutes later of internal bleeding due to blunt force trauma, according to two pathologists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jongo Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 He walked.That's adrenaline for you. Shoot an animal and unless you kill it outright, chances are it will run. It'll die soon enough of it's injuries though, as did Mr Tomlinson. Oh dear. must numb the senses too cause for someone on his way home, he suddenly turned and walked towards his protester mates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mh01 Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 And died a few minutes later of internal bleeding due to blunt force trauma, according to two pathologists.so it wasnt the shove that killed him then? & where exactly was this internal bleeding? head? stomach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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