jongo Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 According to the 66% of pathologists - the ones not being investigated by the GMC - that he died of internal bleeding from blunt instrument trauma. Shortly after being whacking in the kidneys with a batton Wonder how that happened then, he was supposed to have been hit on the legs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mh01 Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 I don't know. Could have been that, could have been the baton strikes.geeoer, you know he dint die from being pushed. its either the heart attack or baton strikes that killed him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splodgeyAl Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 Oh dear. must numb the senses too cause for someone on his way home, he suddenly turned and walked towards his protester mates. If you'd been assaulted by group A and they denied you medical help, would you not try a get help from, say, another group of nearby people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alien Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 According to the 66% of pathologists - the ones not being investigated by the GMC - that he died of internal bleeding from blunt instrument trauma. Shortly after being whacking in the kidneys with a batton You have to also consider that the one of the pathologists was acting for the officer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mh01 Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 According to the 66% of pathologists - the ones not being investigated by the GMC - that he died of internal bleeding from blunt instrument trauma. Shortly after being whacking in the kidneys with a battonso that proves he dint die from a lethal force shove as kthebean put it:roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jongo Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 And you base that reasoning on what? We're not actually discussing what happened off camera...he could be a knife wielding madman for all we know. Stick with the vid.. Now, hand on the bible...do you think he was a threat to the police? Sorry Alien I thought the thread title was No charges in G20 death of Ian Tomlinson Oh, wait a minute it is As the incidents off video were at the same summit on the same day in the same place, then I think it is all relevant He was given enough warnings to go away and leave the site but no, he would not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number Six Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 Same thing you are saying Reason of death = Undecided But in most other criminal case there is conflicting evidence and yet the judicial system decides based on it. Why is conflicting evidence a reason not to have a trial here? The only dissenting pathologist is on the verge of being struck off for not being very good at being a pathologist, so not only is he a minority of 1 amongst pathologists who examined Ian Tomlinson and thought he died of a heart attack, he is also in a minority of one amongst pathologists who examined Mr Tomlinson who are rubbish at it. I'd give more credence to the 100% of pathologists not under investigation personally. We might never know what a jury would think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jongo Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 If you'd been assaulted by group A and they denied you medical help, would you not try a get help from, say, another group of nearby people? Already been there Al, read back and do try and keep up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jongo Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 But in most other criminal case there is conflicting evidence and yet the judicial system decides based on it. Why is conflicting evidence a reason not to have a trial here? The only dissenting pathologist is on the verge of being struck off for not being very good at being a pathologist, so not only is he a minority of 1 amongst pathologists who examined Ian Tomlinson and thought he died of a heart attack, he is also in a minority of one amongst pathologists who examined Mr Tomlinson who are rubbish at it. I'd give more credence to the 100% of pathologists not under investigation personally. We might never know what a jury would think. No You wont ever know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number Six Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 Wonder how that happened then, he was supposed to have been hit on the legs There are several reports of him being assaulted by the police earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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