No charges in G20 death of Ian Tomlinson - Pc Harwood found not guilty.

[melthebell]

There is now a campaign to help the family raise money to fight this shameful travesty.

 

http://www.iantomlinsonfamilycampaign.org.uk/

 

You can also make complaints to the CPS here,

 

http://www.cps.gov.uk/contact/feedback_and_complaints/

yeah and let em know whos on what side of the fence? give em more targets to get rid of

[Darth Vader]

yeah and let em know whos on what side of the fence? give em more targets to get rid of

 

http://www.hmd.org.uk/resources/poetry/first-they-came-pastor-martin-niemoller

 

Ring any bells?

[melthebell]

http://www.hmd.org.uk/resources/poetry/first-they-came-pastor-martin-niemoller

 

Ring any bells?

indeed

 

but giving em yer name and address is pushing things

make em work for it, dont give it on a plate

[Wildcat]

I was just skimming through the Inquest report on the case. A couple of sections caught my attention..

 

The City of London Police completely failed to persuade the

Tomlinson family of its impartiality, not least when they were told by an

investigating officer that he was not ruling out the possibility that the

alleged assailant may be a member of the public dressed in police uniform.

 

That is pretty poor.... but perhaps explained by him not wearing ID?

 

On 1 April 2009 the IPCC’s London Regional Director agreed a

Metropolitan Police press release that misleadingly failed to mention that

there had been police contact with Ian Tomlinson before his death but did

focus on the apparently exaggerated throwing of bottles by protesters at

police administering first aid. Evidence quickly unfolded that seriously

undermined the police’s account of events, yet it took until 8 April before

the IPCC instigated an independent investigation. That the IPCC

subsequently sought to distance itself from the above press statement

appears to confirm the troubling nature of the IPCC’s initial collaboration

with the police.

 

http://inquest.gn.apc.org/pdf/INQUEST_ian_tomlinson_briefing_jun_2009.pdf

 

Now who exactly was it that was throwing bottles?

 

According to a LibDem MP that was there it was undercover Police officers that were inciting the crowds:

 

"When I was in the middle of the crowd, two people came over to me and said, 'There are people over there who we believe are policemen and who have been encouraging the crowd to throw things at the police,'" Brake said. But when the crowd became suspicious of the men and accused them of being police officers, the pair approached the police line and passed through after showing some form of identification.

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/may/10/g20-policing-agent-provacateurs

 

There is a wider issue than Ian Tomlinson's death here. It is the accountability of the police for their own behaviour.

[melthebell]

I was just skimming through the Inquest report on the case. A couple of sections caught my attention..

 

 

 

That is pretty poor.... but perhaps explained by him not wearing ID?

 

 

 

http://inquest.gn.apc.org/pdf/INQUEST_ian_tomlinson_briefing_jun_2009.pdf

 

Now who exactly was it that was throwing bottles?

 

According to a LibDem MP that was there it was undercover Police officers that were inciting the crowds:

 

 

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/may/10/g20-policing-agent-provacateurs

 

There is a wider issue than Ian Tomlinson's death here. It is the accountability of the police for their own behaviour.

 

its a known fact in riot situations no police wear id, and theres also agent provocateurs

[jongo]

I was just skimming through the Inquest report on the case. A couple of sections caught my attention..

 

 

 

That is pretty poor.... but perhaps explained by him not wearing ID?

 

 

 

http://inquest.gn.apc.org/pdf/INQUEST_ian_tomlinson_briefing_jun_2009.pdf

 

Now who exactly was it that was throwing bottles?

 

According to a LibDem MP that was there it was undercover Police officers that were inciting the crowds:

 

"When I was in the middle of the crowd, two people came over to me and said, 'There are people over there who we believe are policemen and who have been encouraging the crowd to throw things at the police,'"

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/may/10/g20-policing-agent-provacateurs

 

There is a wider issue than Ian Tomlinson's death here. It is the accountability of the police for their own behaviour.

 

:hihi::hihi:

I think on that note this thread should be now closed.

 

It is getting more ridiculous by the minute.

 

Judging from this last page, it is obvious that this has nothing more to do with Ian Tomlinsons death, if it ever did, it is just a bunch of keyboard anarchists who are out to cause as much trouble for the police as possible.

 

Sad really, but there ya go, takes all sorts to form a society I suppose.

[boyfriday]

Judging from this last page, it is obvious that this has nothing more to do with Ian Tomlinsons death, if it ever did, it is just a bunch of keyboard anarchists who are out to cause as much trouble for the police as possible.

 

I'm a big supporter of the police jongo, and the work that they do, but that support isn't unconditional. There are clearly issues in the way this investigation has been handled and the performance of the officer that day.

 

I think we can rest assured that if a member of the public had shoved a police officer in the back and that officer had subsequently died, that person would certainly face a criminal trial and a jury would decide.

[Alien]

:hihi::hihi:

I think on that note this thread should be now closed.

 

It is getting more ridiculous by the minute.

 

Judging from this last page, it is obvious that this has nothing more to do with Ian Tomlinsons death, if it ever did, it is just a bunch of keyboard anarchists who are out to cause as much trouble for the police as possible.

 

Sad really, but there ya go, takes all sorts to form a society I suppose.

 

 

Or right wing keyboard fascists prepared to protect the police at any cost...always the flipside to the coin.

 

As for closing the thread...what's up? you on the run?

[Wildcat]

:hihi::hihi:

I think on that note this thread should be now closed.

 

It is getting more ridiculous by the minute.

 

Judging from this last page, it is obvious that this has nothing more to do with Ian Tomlinsons death, if it ever did, it is just a bunch of keyboard anarchists who are out to cause as much trouble for the police as possible.

 

Sad really, but there ya go, takes all sorts to form a society I suppose.

 

You discount the view of a LibDem MP rather easily as an 'anarchist'.....what do you think that says about your opinion?

[donkey]

You discount the view of a LibDem MP rather easily as an 'anarchist'.....what do you think that says about your opinion?

 

I think it is quite clear that his opinion is the police can do no wrong. In fact, if the force had a collective posterior, it would no doubt be from there that the sun shone.