melthebell Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 I'm not sure of the point you are making, do you think the Council should provide all the services listed without trying to address some of the reasons why they are needed. some of us DO try to live like that as matter of course, sadly theres plenty of selfish stupid people out there that dont, so those services will ALWAYS be needed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titanic99 Posted July 25, 2010 Author Share Posted July 25, 2010 some of us DO try to live like that as matter of course, sadly theres plenty of selfish stupid people out there that dont, so those services will ALWAYS be needed I agree most will always be needed, but surely the need could be reduced if some people changed their outlook on certan issues. The irony is that a lot of people responsible for the need for these services, are the first to complain about the cost of providing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chem1st Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 If parkhill was full of tenants, they would generate £1million pa via council tax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedders Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 I think the council should commit itself to providing the services it is oblidged to provide, without trying to filter money away from these services to pay for special projects such as Supertram, Don Valley Stadium, Sheffield Arena & the bid for City of Culture. Such special projects are always underestimated in cost, end up being a massive burden on the council tax payer, & usually mean ultimately, cuts in services they should be providing in the first place. It would have been embarassing for people of Sheffield if they had won the city of culture bid. Other people not from Sheffield.....what would there perception be of Sheffield? Empty shop units in town (the moor); some demolished & left boarded up (the moor); patchwork quilt roads.....it would have just enforced the attitude of southerners more with their KES attitude to us. There is a saying in Yorkshire "All net curtains & no carpets".......think what it's getting at is get the main prorities sorted first before you branch out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedders Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 The problems you mention Titanic (if we can just all stop doing this), have been inherant in human society since biblical times if you are religious. Noah & his arc etc & that didn't solve the problem. Some people are just naturally risk takers & rule breakers. If anyone can come up with a remedy to sort that....well it could save councils millions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogs Of War Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Sheffield council wastes a vast amount of money on ,bus lanes and cycle lanes . For what ? The benefit of the few ,and some Greenies on the council, while costing us council tax payers vast amounts of cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sccsux Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Abandoned Vehicles- we stop abandoning vehicles - Not everyone does this Abbeydale Hamlet- we no longer retain an interest in out history Abuse- we stop abusing each other - Not everyone does this Accidents in the workplace- we create safe environments - LieBore tried this - with disasterous results Accidents- we create safer environments - LieBore tried this - with disasterous results Adopt a Dog- we stop abandoning dogs - Not everyone does this Adult care- we provide care within our families - Not everyone has family they can call on for help Affordable warmth- we create homes that provide this After school clubs-we have more flexible working so we can pick them up Alcohol and Drug support- we reduce our intake of these - Not everyone does alcohol and/or drugs Allotments-we use our gardens - Not everyone has a garden Animal control- we control our own animals - Not everyone has pets Anti Social behaviour- we behave appropriately Archives- we lose our need for historical information Assisted wheelie bin collection- we become a good neighbour and help others You obviously haven't thought this through:loopy: Do you think it would be possible for you to post something meaningful for a change? i'm sure they dont put railings up willy nilly without leaving any gaps at all They did on Bradfield Road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarrietStar Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 With all the talk of reducing the deficit and the desire to engage the Public on which services should be cut, I thought I’d turn the issue around a little and create a thread that looks at things we as citizens could do differently, that would lead in turn to less reliance n the Council to clear up the mess. I’ve attached a link to an A-Z of Council Services and made suggestions on what we could all do to help for the letter A. Any other suggestions would I’m sure be very appreciated by Council leaders. Abandoned Vehicles- we stop abandoning vehicles Abbeydale Hamlet- we no longer retain an interest in out history Abuse- we stop abusing each other Accidents in the workplace- we create safe environments Accidents- we create safer environments Adopt a Dog- we stop abandoning dogs Adult care- we provide care within our families Affordable warmth- we create homes that provide this After school clubs-we have more flexible working so we can pick them up Alcohol and Drug support- we reduce our intake of these Allotments-we use our gardens Animal control- we control our own animals Anti Social behaviour- we behave appropriately Archives- we lose our need for historical information Assisted wheelie bin collection- we become a good neighbour and help others So what else can we do to help? http://www.sheffield.gov.uk/sys_upl/templates/pt_directory/pt_directory_summary.asp?page=1&action=Display&pgid=143481&tid=154&DirectoryKeywords=&CategoryID=&OrderDir=ASC&OrderFld=&esLtr=A I like that you're trying to help, but on your affordable warmth suggestion, it's hardly cost cutting is it? Someone has to pay to develop new homes, whether that's developers or a public agency, and don't forget that the market for developing new homes is pretty flat at present. Also, what about all the existing homes that aren't up to scratch, how do we pay for insulation etc. In my opinion, we don't need to look at how we can deliver these things cheaply or even for free, what we need to look at again is which of these things should be priorities, which can we do without all together. But that's where it gets difficult, and also where politicians don't want to take the difficult decisions - they'd rather apply a blanket cut to all services, rather than prioritising some above others (in my opinion). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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