Cyclone Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 What's tail gating if not an inappropriate braking gap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spindrift Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 Private Eye 19th August 2010: ROAD RAGE How does switching off speed cameras in Oxfordshire and other areas, as central government axes their funding, square with the Tories “Big Society”? David Cameron wants people to be more active in improving their communities, but the big improvement many communities want is safer roads. Local campaigns for speed cameras came up against Labour’s bizarre rule that cameras were allowed only at places where at least four deaths or serious injuries had happened in three years (any factory, hospital or airline manager would be hauled over the coals for taking that reactive approach to risk management). Sporadic enforcement by camera was allowed at some “sites of community concern”, but many residents had to settle for borrowing police equipment to register vehicle speeds themselves, with punishment impossible or unlikely. What Labour and Tory ministers have never understood is that speeding traffic is a problem because of intimidation, not just the occurrence of accidents. Over the past 40 years children’s independence of movement has reduced dramatically, with worrying health consequences, thanks largely to parental fear of traffic. Elderly people can be cut off from neighbours or services if they are terrified of passing vehicles. The absence of recent accidents where traffic routinely exceeds the speed limit could be an indicator not of safety but of locals being too scared to cycle or walk on the road as they’re entitled to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eater Sundae Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 So we should all travel at walking speed with a man with a red flag in front of the car? Of course nobody has advocated that, but don't let that little matter get in the way of your prejuidices. This thread is nothing to do with reducing limits to a ridiculous extreme, it's all about sticking to the existing ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xt500 Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 Of course nobody has advocated that, but don't let that little matter get in the way of your prejuidices. This thread is nothing to do with reducing limits to a ridiculous extreme, it's all about sticking to the existing ones. Some drivers would argue speed limits are already at a ridiculous extreme,thats why MILLIONS of drivers everyday choose to ignore them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willman Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 Of course nobody has advocated that, but don't let that little matter get in the way of your prejuidices. This thread is nothing to do with reducing limits to a ridiculous extreme, it's all about sticking to the existing ones. No its not - it's about people who break the law and then complain about others breaking the law. Or who drive inappropriately - taligating, yet moan at others who pull out inappropriately or who don't indicate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spindrift Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 the copper mentioned middle-class speeders because they often moan about law breaking then break the law themselves. Working class people chavs, druggies and burglars break speed limits but we already know they are low-life scumbags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garrence Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 Private Eye 19th August 2010: Blimey. Not only is he breaking forum rules and copyright law by reposting articles from elsewhere without permission or comment, he's now doing so with articles from the future! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garrence Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 Working class people chavs, druggies and burglars break speed limits but we already know they are low-life scumbags. Working class people are low-life scumbags, eh? You might want to leave town for a while... Don't speed in your rush to escape your punishment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spindrift Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 There doesn't have to be a death for speeding to be anti-social and agressive. Speeding drivers terrify pedestrians, bullies old people away from roads, intimidates cyclists and children, makes more noise, causes more pollution etc etc. We have a culture of indulgence toward speeding idiots who kill far more children every year than are killed in paedophile abductions. Grow up and juest get out of bed earlier rather than subject the rest of us to your bullying behaviour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spindrift Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 The speed limits are set for the good of everyone, not just self-styled "good drivers". Speeding vehicles intimidate pedestrians, especially children, older people and those with disabilities. These groups are more likely to make the wrong decision as to when it is safe to cross a road, or are simply are unable to cross at all when vehicles are speeding. I live near to a long, straight road with excellent visibility and few parked cars. Selfish drivers regularly exceed the 30mph limit by a considerable amount, no doubt arguing to themselves that they are safe to do so. However most children living on the adjacent housing estates are forbidden to cross the road unaccompanied because of the speeding cars. The action of these drivers prevents children moving around their own area freely. Speed also increases noise pollution vastly and increases fuel consumption, and the effects of any driving error or unforeseen event are magnified by speed. Speedophiles are selfish bullies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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