splodgeyAl Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Don't see the point of this thread. Generalising about Muslims and terrorism whilst restricting the theatre of activity to the US excludes the many and ongoing acts of terrorism perpetrated by Islamic extremists in many other parts of the world and is a bit of a dead end argument. My perception is that most victims of Islamic terrorism are fellow Muslims and certainly nothing to do with race, although in places like Iraq and Pakistan there seems to be a tribal dimension to the atrocities. It's hard to get away from the conclusion that in the Muslim world terrorism is seen as a justifiable means to a political end no matter who is killed and maimed in the process, and it's equally hard to imagine how the process can be halted, never mind prevented. They have the Northern Ireland peace process as historical evidence to prove that assertion to be correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Player 1 Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Addressing the "Generalising about Muslims and terrorism " was the entire point of this thread. Well no one, with any sense, does that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Like what? What do you mean like what? Read the OP and then reply to the thread. :loopy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecky Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Here's the accepted definition of terrorism but I reckon a few people on here would disagree with it: The Terrorism Act 2006 uses the definition of terrorism contained in the Terrorism Act 2000. Section 34 amends that definition slightly, to include specific types of actions against international governmental organisations, such as the UN. The definition in the Terrorism Act 2000 (as amended) states: 1. - (1) In this Act "terrorism" means the use or threat of action where: 1.the action falls within subsection (2) 2.the use or threat is designed to influence the government or an international governmental organisation or to intimidate the public or a section of the public 3.the use or threat is made for the purpose of advancing a political, religious or ideological cause. (2) Action falls within this subsection if it: 1.involves serious violence against a person 2.involves serious damage to property 3.endangers a person's life, other than that of the person committing the action 4.creates a serious risk to the health or safety of the public or a section of the public 5.is designed seriously to interfere with or seriously to disrupt an electronic system Section 1(3) to (5) goes on to expand on the effect and extent of this definition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spindrift Posted August 19, 2010 Author Share Posted August 19, 2010 Well no one, with any sense, does that. It's a claim, posted upthread, that most terrorists are muslims. When generalisations spill over into rank racism it needs addressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Here's the accepted definition of terrorism but I reckon a few people on here would disagree with it: The Terrorism Act 2006 uses the definition of terrorism contained in the Terrorism Act 2000. Section 34 amends that definition slightly, to include specific types of actions against international governmental organisations, such as the UN. The definition in the Terrorism Act 2000 (as amended) states: 1. - (1) In this Act "terrorism" means the use or threat of action where: 1.the action falls within subsection (2) 2.the use or threat is designed to influence the government or an international governmental organisation or to intimidate the public or a section of the public 3.the use or threat is made for the purpose of advancing a political, religious or ideological cause. (2) Action falls within this subsection if it: 1.involves serious violence against a person 2.involves serious damage to property 3.endangers a person's life, other than that of the person committing the action 4.creates a serious risk to the health or safety of the public or a section of the public 5.is designed seriously to interfere with or seriously to disrupt an electronic system Section 1(3) to (5) goes on to expand on the effect and extent of this definition. Let's be fair, that is the most discredited and despised piece of legislation on our statute book. It criminalises everyone so that individuals have to prove innocence rather than a court proving guilt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecky Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Let's be fair, that is the most discredited and despised piece of legislation on our statute book. It criminalises everyone so that individuals have to prove innocence rather than a court proving guilt. Which is why laws are very loosly termed - They can mean anything really. That's why lawyers specialise is specific areas and are therefore able to spot the loopholes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NoddyHolder Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 the silence is deafening... Not really if you read your OP and then read my link which you have obviously posted with great relish you will find that you are wrong full stop.now I could explain why but just settle down read the link,read the title of your OP and even someone as obviously obtuse as yourself will be able to see the glaring misrepresentation on your part....again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spindrift Posted August 19, 2010 Author Share Posted August 19, 2010 Not really if you read your OP and then read my link which you have obviously posted with great relish you will find that you are wrong full stop.now I could explain why but just settle down read the link,read the title of your OP and even someone as obviously obtuse as yourself will be able to see the glaring misrepresentation on your part....again Old 19-06-2010, 19:49 #566 NoddyHolder "Proven that the majority of terrorists are indeed muslim based " http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/show...ts#post6376613 Do you post racist lies then immediately forget what you posted? Guffaw! And again: 16-06-2010, 12:10 #450 NoddyHolder "it just so happens that most terrorism nowadays is the product of the muslim religion. " http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/show...orists&page=23 You've posted ignorant, racist garbage. I've just demonstrated that you're wrong. Again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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