mj.scuba Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 "Most muslims are terrorists" a racist lie. I dont know whether this is a deliberate mistake or what ,I have seen the saying that" most terrorists are muslims" bandied about but never this statement Without commenting on the statements themselves, I agree "Most Muslims are terrorists" and "Most terrorists are Muslims" are entirely different statements with entirely different meanings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Would you like to show me where I said jewish terrorism was worse please? Third time. OK, if you insist. there were more Jewish acts of terrorism within the United States than Islamic (7% vs 6%). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spindrift Posted August 19, 2010 Author Share Posted August 19, 2010 16-06-2010, 12:10 #450 NoddyHolder "it just so happens that most terrorism nowadays is the product of the muslim religion. " Did you or did you not write these words? I've provided evidence that it's untrue. Are you saying someone else logged in as you and posted that racist lie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spindrift Posted August 19, 2010 Author Share Posted August 19, 2010 OK, if you insist. According to the stats that's true. But no moral equivelence was made, I said it was rooted in religious idealogy, the same as islamic terrorism, I didn't say it was worse which is what you claimed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mj.scuba Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Its interesting to note that a lot of the terrorist incidents were committed by animal rights groups,it seems as though the FBI's and indeed spindrifts versions of terrorism seem to be all encompassing. ....and even includes vandalism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 According to the stats that's true. But no moral equivelence was made, I said it was rooted in religious idealogy, the same as islamic terrorism, I didn't say it was worse which is what you claimed. Sorry but your words are quite clear. If you meant something else you should have said something else. What you said was: there were more Jewish acts of terrorism within the United States than Islamic (7% vs 6%). On A Level results days it's worth pointing out that 7% is worse than 6% in terrorism terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecky Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 On the FBI’s official website, there exists a chronological list of all terrorist attacks committed on U.S. soil from the year 1980 all the way to 2005. That list can be accessed here (scroll down all the way to the bottom). http://www.fbi.gov/publications/terror/terrorism2002_2005.htm According to this data, there were more Jewish acts of terrorism within the United States than Islamic (7% vs 6%). These radical Jews committed acts of terrorism in the name of their religion. These were not terrorists who happened to be Jews; rather, they were extremist Jews who committed acts of terrorism based on their religious passions, just like Al-Qaeda and company. Yet notice the disparity in media coverage between the two. It would indeed be very interesting to construct a corresponding pie chart that depicted the level of media coverage of each group. The reason that Muslim apologists and their “leftist dhimmi allies” cannot recall another non-Islamic act of terrorism other than Waco is due to the fact that the media gives menial (if any) coverage to such events. If a terrorist attack does not fit the “Islam is the perennial and existential threat of our times” narrative, it is simply not paid much attention to, which in a circuitous manner reinforces and “proves” the preconceived narrative. It is to such an extent that the average American cannot remember any Jewish or Latino terrorist; why should he when he has never even heard of the Jewish Defense League or the Ejercito Popular Boricua Macheteros? Surely what he does not know does not exist! The data gathered by Europol strengthens my argument even further. http://www.europol.europa.eu/index.asp?page=publications&language= Europol publishes an annual report entitled EU Terrorism Situation and Trend Report. On their official website, you can access the reports from 2007, 2008, and 2009. The results are stark, and prove decisively that not all terrorists are Muslims. In fact, a whopping 99.6% of terrorist attacks in Europe were by non-Muslim groups; a good 84.8% of attacks were from separatist groups completely unrelated to Islam. Leftist groups accounted for over sixteen times as much terrorism as radical Islamic groups. Only a measly 0.4% of terrorist attacks from 2007 to 2009 could be attributed to extremist Muslims. We have analyzed data from America and Europe (a good portion of the entire Western world), and the threat from Islamic terrorism is much more minimal than commonly assumed; in the U.S., it accounts for 6% of terrorist attacks, and in Europe not even half of a percent. It is only through sensationalism and fear mongering that the topic of Islamic terrorism is allowed to be used to demonize a religious community that happens to be a minority in the West. When confronted by such lunacy, we ought to respond with the facts and the truth. I don't know what you're hoping to achieve, maybe you don't even know yourself, but you're not going to change anyones' views. The only people who believe that are muslims are terrorist are those that probably read The Sun or some equivalent rag. That said, I reckon most muslims support the terrorists views if not actions, but that's just my personal opinion, which does seem to be supported by various fact previously posted on here. BTW, ""Most muslims are terrorists" a racist lie," Why exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splodgeyAl Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 In South Asia, one must not forget the Tamil Tigers, who are mostly Hindus. Plus in Chechnya the struggle is nationalistic rather than religious. The question is how does the myth propogate that most terrorism is Islamic? The terrrists is the South Philippines used to be communist, but luckily converted to Islam just as that suited the media and their stereotype building. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sccsux Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Because you can be racist toward members of a religion, in the official definition: I'll be sticking with the OED version: racist noun: a person who believes that a particular race is superior to another adjective: having or showing the belief that a particular race is superior to another To me, Islamophobia is totally different to racism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mj.scuba Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Would you like to show me where I said jewish terrorism was worse please? Third time. Could you also show where NoddyHolder apparently said "all Muslims are terrorists" since this is what apparently inspired the thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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