danot Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 Here is one source of many that gives 1066 as the date. http://www.questia.com/read/1255114?title=Chapter%20XI%3a%20WILLIAM%20I.%20A%20CONQUERING%20KING Do you have any sources\references to believe it was 1076? or reason to believe that the conventional date 1066 is wrong? No, I have no reason to believe it was 1076, or that the conventional date is wrong. I'm just working with an idea that someone else suggested earlier. PS. very insightful link by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcat Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 Historians look for contemporary evidence. Consensual agreement is what we get on here and is often wrong. Graham, what does your first sentence mean? I have puzzled over it for a few minutes. It strikes me as one of those profound sentences that can mean almost anything or nothing. Are you claiming that the Doomsday Book because it exists today is contemporary evidence? Your point perhaps being that our view of history improves as we uncover more information like the way the Staffordshire Horde uncovered recently adds to our understanding of history? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danot Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 If there were troll awards you would clear up Danot, your technique is very effective indeed, everyone bites! However, I don't think it's quite as funny as the conventional trolls on here, you should probably work on that.How very dare you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danot Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 There's plenty who are more extreme and/or funnier but Danot gets the prize for sheer success rate.You're too modest, I can't take all the credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcat Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 Providing the historical accounts are accurate. Are they accurate?... I couldn't say with absolute certainty whether they are or they aren't. Maybe you can't say with absolute certainty. There is always Cartesian doubt. But aside from philosophical solipsistic arguments, as Halibut has pointed out there is a wealth of corroborating sources from the UK, France etc. that date Norman invasion at 1066. Whilst it is possible that these sources could have all been created, with carbon dating etc we can be certain that if the date was a product of a fraud it would have to have been from around that period. It would also have had to involve the collusion of states and organisations that had no fealty with each other. The possibility of a fraud is way beyond reasonable doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcat Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 Furthermore, the absence of a reason for your belief (about 1076) by its very nature makes your belief unreasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotusflower Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 Analyse the controversial threads on here. Then look and see how the same birds of a feather all flock together. Then objectively look to see if their view is the correct one or not. It's too subjective Grahame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danot Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 Maybe you can't say with absolute certainty. There is always Cartesian doubt. But aside from philosophical solipsistic arguments, as Halibut has pointed out there is a wealth of corroborating sources from the UK, France etc. that date Norman invasion at 1066. Whilst it is possible that these sources could have all been created, with carbon dating etc we can be certain that if the date was a product of a fraud it would have to have been from around that period. It would also have had to involve the collusion of states and organisations that had no fealty with each other. The possibility of a fraud is way beyond reasonable doubt. Furthermore, the absence of a reason for your belief (about 1076) by its very nature makes your belief unreasonable.It's not my belief, it's an idea that was suggested to me in a question I was asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grahame Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 It's too subjective Grahame. You mean that if the same group of people all claim the earth is flat, you cannot do the research to see if they are correct or not? If that were the case I would suggest you were a member of that group and you preferred to live in blissful ignorance of the truth. Sorry, but I think you are a member of such a group and your mind is closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halibut Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 You mean that if the same group of people all claim the earth is flat, you cannot do the research to see if they are correct or not? If that were the case I would suggest you were a member of that group and you preferred to live in blissful ignorance. Sorry, but I think you are a member of such a group and your mind is closed. Grahame, you are commanded by your God to love your muslim neighbour as yourself . And Swami too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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