*_ash_* Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 There is a programme on TV now and it is heart rending to watch. Yes, I agree. I've only read page one of the thread, but I can imagine where it is now, I'll read the rest tomorrow. That young man sat screaming by the door almost brought a tear to eyes of my emotionless self. The poor lad looked in agony The two female siblings had beautiful smiles, in their ignorance. They probably have the same to come. I watched it with my housemate who was saying, (when the mother was saying that it was God, not genetics) that 'how can someone be so naive?' Easy really. Little education. My god, the imam in the C4 programme would be an excellent candidate for the ignorance is bliss brigade. Also agree. My goodness! You know what I saw? Hatred in his eyes, that someone (and also a woman) was questioning him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s.hawkins Posted August 24, 2010 Author Share Posted August 24, 2010 Yes, I agree. I've only read page one of the thread, but I can imagine where it is now, I'll read the rest tomorrow. That young man sat screaming by the door almost brought a tear to eyes of my emotionless self. The poor lad looked in agony The two female siblings had beautiful smiles, in their ignorance. They probably have the same to come. I watched it with my housemate who was saying, (when the mother was saying that it was God, not genetics) that 'how can someone be so naive?' Easy really. Little education. Also agree. My goodness! You know what I saw? Hatred in his eyes, that someone (and also a woman) was questioning him. i totally agree with you, on all the points you made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s.hawkins Posted August 24, 2010 Author Share Posted August 24, 2010 http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=5321 why would you not want this inbreeding custom banned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike84 Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 I am shocked by some posters attitudes In this thread about people with varying disabilities. A certain Adolf Hitler and various other dictators throughout history had similar views on disabled people and how they are a "burden" on society. Disability has been around for thousands of years, it's a part of human diversity that will never stop, no matter how much medical science advances disability in humans will always exist. In the UK we have systems in place such as the NHS & Social care services which help disabled people live as "normal" lives as they possibly can. This is what sets us aside from other places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizzle Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 I am shocked by some posters attitudes In this thread about people with varying disabilities. A certain Adolf Hitler and various other dictators throughout history had similar views on disabled people and how they are a "burden" on society. Disability has been around for thousands of years, it's a part of human diversity that will never stop, no matter how much medical science advances disability in humans will always exist. In the UK we have systems in place such as the NHS & Social care services which help disabled people live as "normal" lives as they possibly can. This is what sets us aside from other places. Well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimay Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 I am shocked by some posters attitudes In this thread about people with varying disabilities. A certain Adolf Hitler and various other dictators throughout history had similar views on disabled people and how they are a "burden" on society. Disability has been around for thousands of years, it's a part of human diversity that will never stop, no matter how much medical science advances disability in humans will always exist. In the UK we have systems in place such as the NHS & Social care services which help disabled people live as "normal" lives as they possibly can. This is what sets us aside from other places. Infant mortality used to be much higher than it is today and medical science hasn't always been around to prolong life so the chance of disabled babies dying at birth or having a short life span was much higher than it is today. Also many many disabled people were locked away. Even in 1958 my mum was told to have me institutionalised as I was born with spinal scoliosis. The doctor said I would be a vegetable. Having to deal with disabled children surviving into adulthood is a relatively new 'problem'. I may be naive but I wonder how many genetically deformed babies born in Pakistan die at birth or soon after due to the lack of medical intervention and lack of awareness of genetics. I was surprised to hear the mum of the three children practically blame doctors' treatment for causing the problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike84 Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 Infant mortality used to be much higher than it is today and medical science hasn't always been around to prolong life so the chance of disabled babies dying at birth or having a short life span was much higher than it is today. Also many many disabled people were locked away. Even in 1958 my mum was told to have me institutionalised as I was born with spinal scoliosis. The doctor said I would be a vegetable. Having to deal with disabled children surviving into adulthood is a relatively new 'problem'. I may be naive but I wonder how many genetically deformed babies born in Pakistan die at birth or soon after due to the lack of medical intervention and lack of awareness of genetics. I was surprised to hear the mum of the three children practically blame doctors' treatment for causing the problems. Locking people away in institutions is a practise that is extremely rare now, although this has only come about in the late 1980's. A lot of people in other countries may die at a younger age because of the quality of the available health care. This doesn't mean that in the UK we should let this happen when people have access to high quality health care. Lots of people with disabilities, even people with the most severe disabilities go on to live long and fulfilling lives. Nobody has a right to deny them this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s.hawkins Posted August 24, 2010 Author Share Posted August 24, 2010 There was a report..last year? that said that even amongst siblings the likliehood of some form of genetic abnormality was below 1%. Looking to see if i can find it. (That is, a below 1% increase in the chance of abnormalities, not a 1% chance of an abnormality.) really 1%? http://www.channel4.com/programmes/dispatches/ wrong:roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulgarian Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 As soon as I started watching that program last night I though "I bet someone is furiously typing away on Sheffield Forum right now" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulgarian Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 That young man sat screaming by the door almost brought a tear to eyes of my emotionless self. The poor lad looked in agony I don't think they should have had that at the begining of the program, I bet it made lots of people turn it off, I nearly did, it was horrible, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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