Racist rap or hiphop

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You asked for "modern day hiphop lyrics that make racist statements" and I listed some which you now disregard.

I didn't disregard them, I commented on them previously ie. before you lazily reprinted the stuff.

 

Some are old, but I don’t actually know the release dates of the albums these songs were part of.

Well, you could find out. We all have search engines, unless you're in China and having a bit of bother with your Google.

 

You seem to be the connoisseur; maybe this is why you are such a verdant defender of your favoured music.

Why, thank you. I did buy my first hiphop 12" in 1982 so it's been a while. Doesn't mean I like all of it, or would defend the lyrics of knuckleheads like Cam'ron.

 

Let’s deal with this first:

 

Seven years is not that long and 50 cent as an artist is still just as popular and still recording. This is in stark contrast to the list of racist metal bands being used as a comparison considering all of those have since spilt up and where last active more then 15 or so years ago.

More unreasearched piffle! All of those racist metal bands have not split up, some are defunct, some are still active. If you don't know something (hardly a crime), get some information before writing untruths.

 

What does that change? If the artist uses one racial insult but later uses another aimed at a completely different group, do they somehow cancel each other out?

No, they don't. A bit of context always helps, though. If you're so interested and not just here to argue with people whilst bereft of any factual information, you could investigate it for yourself.

 

Nothing deliberate at all, you are trying to attack me yet again. May I suggest you give reason to why you consider this lyric to be out of context before making accusations?

NO YOU MAY NOT SUGGEST! I did not 'suggest' anything - I stated a fact - the lyric is INCOMPLETE. You don't know. You didn't check. You don't check anything! I wasn't accusing you !!! The lyric was incomplete in the link

 

.. and what do you mean by "attack me yet again" I haven't attacked you! So far you've called me a 'pleb' and a 'fool'. Pot, kettle etc.

 

Odd, you are an advocate of searching the web but appear incapable of following your own advice: Another reference: http://slumz.boxden.com/f87/50-cent-says-cracker-song-504363

... which contains links to the exact same lyrics that were mentioned on page one, so nothing new there.

[melthebell]

Aaah yes, those bands cd's are in HMV and available for download on I tunes all the time

 

actually just out of curiosity ive just found a band mentioned on the nationalist socialist black metal site

 

infester

and searched for em on amazon and found their album "To the Depths... In Degradation" which is also mentioned on said NSBM site

 

and i got a hit

its available 2nd hand for £45 or as mp3s

 

so they DO creep out into the big wide world occasionly

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Where?? you find me the links.

What do you mean "you find me the links"? Find your own information if you are genuinely interested. They're both huge-selling artists and one has already been discussed on the thread.

[melthebell]

What do you mean "you find me the links"? Find your own information if you are genuinely interested. They're both huge-selling artists and one has aready been discussed on the thread.

heh you can tell the people that have no manners, no knowledge and no gumption to think

[Berberis]

exactly all serepis does is change the subject and play games

 

No I do not, I have not changed any subject matter what so ever. This is a purely false accusation. Get a life, if you can give a concise argument and evidence to back up your claims, don't start to cry when people pick apart your argument.

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heh you can tell the people that have no manners, no knowledge and no gumption to think

I'm one of those strange ones that knew some things before the internet. I suspect you're another.

[Berberis]

More unreasearched piffle! All of those racist metal bands have not split up, some are defunct, some are still active. If you don't know something (hardly a crime), get some information before writing untruths.

 

Those used to compare are now defunct. If there are others, please link the band and the lyrics that are racist.

 

NO YOU MAY NOT SUGGEST! I did not 'suggest' anything - I stated a fact - the lyric is INCOMPLETE. You don't know. You didn't check. You don't check anything! I wasn't accusing you !!! The lyric was incomplete in the link

 

You did not say the lyric though, you said the quote was incommplete and as I had made the quote and gave you no link, you are therefore accusing me of deliberately misquoting. See below. No link in sight, just my quote.

 

Cam'ron - "I'll be damned if I work for some white cracker." - This is from eight years ago and a (deliberately?) incomplete quotation to take it out of context.

 

.. and what do you mean by "attack me yet again" I haven't attacked you! So far you've called me a 'pleb' and a 'fool'. Pot, kettle etc.

 

See above.

 

... which contains links to the exact same lyrics that were mentioned on page one, so nothing new there.

 

Odd, two sites, which you said there was only one, quote the same lyric, which is a reference to the very early career of the artist who was not performing under his current name. Its old, I'll give you that, but your previous reasons for disregarding the lyric was you could not find any other reference other then a neo-nazi site. I found another, totally unaffiliated site with the same lyric. Go figure.

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Those used to compare are now defunct. If there are others, please link the band and the lyrics that are racist.

I mentioned two bands in post #114. They won't be the only ones, I found more at the time but didn't list them. Some of these bands lyrics are in other languages such as Ukrainian. I'll assume they are neither easy to find nor of much benefit to the users here. National Socialist Black Metal is what is - Nazi rock music.

 

The contents of the rest of the post I'm replying to here seems fairly pedantic so I'll give it a miss.

[melthebell]

I mentioned two bands in post #114. They won't be the only ones, I found more at the time but didn't list them. Some of these bands lyrics are in other languages such as Ukrainian. I'll assume they are neither easy to find nor of much benefit to the users here. National Socialist Black Metal is what is - Nazi rock music.

 

The contents of the rest of the post I'm replying to here seems fairly pedantic so I'll give it a miss.

 

its all one big pedantic arguement that serepis is currently waging. he cant just admit yes they exist / existed and move on

[Berberis]

I mentioned two bands in post #114. They won't be the only ones, I found more at the time but didn't list them. Some of these bands lyrics are in other languages such as Ukrainian. I'll assume they are neither easy to find nor of much benefit to the users here. National Socialist Black Metal is what is - Nazi rock music.

 

The contents of the rest of the post I'm replying to here seems fairly pedantic so I'll give it a miss.

 

I'm not disputing this, all I am asking for is what are the racist lyrics. If you know them, quote them, if you have a website with them on, link it, but to accuse anyone of being racist without first thoroughly researching and documenting the deviance is wrong.