Shy talk Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 Religion is complete anathema to socialists, so why do they defend Muslims and Islam to the hilt? Surely things like Muslim women having to enter mosques through a side entrance while the men walk proudly through the front goes against all feminist principles of socialism. And surely Muslims cant abide the things that leftists stand for. Its a strange one isn't it? The reason is, Socialism and Islam have put their differences aside because they share a common enemy -traditional white western culture and capitalism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stackrock Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 The 'lice' being devout muslims offended by blasphemy, that felt the need to exercise their democratic right to protest? Why do you feel the need to dehumanise them? does that make it easier to dismiss their feelings and rights? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dehumanization not them, but the behead card holders, the plastic muslims, not the real ones who hate violence and dispise how the islamic faith has been twisted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcat Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 not them, but the behead card holders, the plastic muslims, not the real ones who hate violence and dispise how the islamic faith has been twisted. In which case your earlier point makes no sense. How have the cartoons brought these out in to the open in a constructive way? If anything the cartoons will strengthen the extremists ability to recruit by exemplifying the stereotype of a crusade against them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcat Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 Religion is complete anathema to socialists, so why do they defend Muslims and Islam to the hilt? Surely things like Muslim women having to enter mosques through a side entrance while the men walk proudly through the front goes against all feminist principles of socialism. And surely Muslims cant abide the things that leftists stand for. Its a strange one isn't it? The reason is, Socialism and Islam have put their differences aside because they share a common enemy -traditional white western culture and capitalism. Alternatively the people you complain about actually know what they are talking about and know the damage that stereotyping causes does nothing to assist in dealing with problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinz Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 Religion is complete anathema to socialists, so why do they defend Muslims and Islam to the hilt? Surely things like Muslim women having to enter mosques through a side entrance while the men walk proudly through the front goes against all feminist principles of socialism. And surely Muslims cant abide the things that leftists stand for. Its a strange one isn't it? The reason is, Socialism and Islam have put their differences aside because they share a common enemy -traditional white western culture and capitalism. I have never read such a load of old tosh. Where do you get this stuff? So those that follow islam and live in the West see the West as an enemy? Why would an enemy move next door to an enemy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shy talk Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 Alternatively the people you complain about actually know what they are talking about and know the damage that stereotyping causes does nothing to assist in dealing with problems. Go on, as a socialist, what do you make of Muslim women being made to enter mosques through a side entrance while the men walk proudly through the main entrance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hard2miss Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 I have never read such a load of old tosh. Where do you get this stuff? So those that follow islam and live in the West see the West as an enemy? Why would an enemy move next door to an enemy? So he could slip on a backpack and take the tube ? I know what your saying though, I don't think you can assume everyone is out to get you just because a few are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stackrock Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 In which case your earlier point makes no sense. How have the cartoons brought these out in to the open in a constructive way? If anything the cartoons will strengthen the extremists ability to recruit by exemplifying the stereotype of a crusade against them. we see them and how many if they want to go down the jihad path they will anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tessmess36 Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 the cartoon really did show islam for what it is, via the protests death threats etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icon76 Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 In which case your earlier point makes no sense. How have the cartoons brought these out in to the open in a constructive way? If anything the cartoons will strengthen the extremists ability to recruit by exemplifying the stereotype of a crusade against them. They drew at least fout of them out into the open trying to kill the cartoonist in question. 3 cuaght plotting and one in the act, all islamist, all dangerous to western society and living among us and all now safely caged, one with a few bullet holes for his troubles. It's a small start, but it is a start in sniffing out the jihadists and putting them beyond causing harm to the public. You seem to view a lurch to islamic extremism and jihadism as a "right" if anything happens anywhere that might mildly **** off a muslim. It isn't, at least in the west. In parts of the muslim world it's de rigeur, but not here and nor should it ever be allowed to be. We need to deal with any individual who goes down the jihadist path in our lands with severity and without this endless bleating that dealing firmly with jihadists will cause more jihadists to appear. Anyone who becomes a terrorist because you shoot or jail another terrorist was pretty far down the terrorism path anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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