The Pope's Visit

[donkey]

If the Nazis were persecuting the catholic church, then why did the catholic church support Hitler's fascist ally, Franco? Furthermore, Germany was a largely Catholic and almost entirely Christian country at the time of the rise of Nazism. Without the support of a large proportion of those Christians, Hitler's rise to power would have been impossible.

[spindrift]

You're criticising a 14 year old boy for making a decision that could have kept his mother and father out of prison.

 

The Ratzingers had previously denounced the nazis, making it far more likely that retribution would be meted out if the 14 year old pope and declined to join the HJ..

 

Like I said, spiteful.

[plekhanov]

If the Nazis were persecuting the catholic church, then why did the catholic church support Hitler's fascist ally, Franco? Furthermore, Germany was a largely Catholic and almost entirely Christian country at the time of the rise of Nazism. Without the support of a large proportion of those Christians, Hitler's rise to power would have been impossible.

Slight correction Germany was largely protestant with a substantial Catholic minority. Catholics were only the majority in a few regions.

[plekhanov]

You exaggerated, thought so:

 

When membership became mandatory, parents were warned that the kids would be taken away and sent to other homes or orphanages. Parents, who were found guilty of keeping their children out of the HJ were sentenced to severe prison sentences.

 

Only about 10 to 20% were able to avoid joining. [10]

 

 

http://wapedia.mobi/en/Hitler_Youth

 

 

Why are you telling desperate lies in a hysterical attempt to smear the pope plekhanov?

What lies are these? I have consistently said "between 1 in 5 to 1 in 10" of those eligible unlike your Pope avoided the Hitler Youth that is exactly the same as what your source says.

[spindrift]

If the persecution of Jewish Poles was comparable to that of Catholics as your Catholic source so disgracefully pretends there .

 

It says the exact opposite:

 

Though the scale of Christian persecution cannot be compared to the Jewish Holocaust of 1941-1945,

 

http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/history/world/wh0033.html

[flamingjimmy]

It says the exact opposite:

 

Though the scale of Christian persecution cannot be compared to the Jewish Holocaust of 1941-1945,

 

http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/history/world/wh0033.html

 

Apart from it doesn't.

 

"Though the scale of Christian persecution cannot be compared to the Jewish Holocaust of 1941-1945, except perhaps in Poland"

 

Seriously, stop lying about things that we can all check really easily, it's never going to work.

[plekhanov]

You're criticising a 14 year old boy for making a decision that could have kept his mother and father out of prison.

 

The Ratzingers had previously denounced the nazis, making it far more likely that retribution would be meted out if the 14 year old pope and declined to join the HJ..

 

Like I said, spiteful.

Who is this comment at? Whomever it is aimed at will you please provide direct evidence of them criticising Ratzinger for joining the Hitler youth rather than his pretence that there was no choice?

[spindrift]

His choice was to join, or see his parents go to prison.

 

Not much of a choice for a 14 year old boy.

[plekhanov]

It says the exact opposite:

 

Though the scale of Christian persecution cannot be compared to the Jewish Holocaust of 1941-1945,

 

http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/history/world/wh0033.html

Liar your disgusting source said:

 

Though the scale of Christian persecution cannot be compared to the Jewish Holocaust of 1941-1945, except perhaps in Poland, the ultimate destruction of Christianity was one of the Nazis long-term aims.

 

Why did you so dishonestly edit out the very text I objected to? Did you really think no one would call you on such blatant dishonesty?

[spindrift]

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