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Strix Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 This thread is making me cringe! The same advice goes for putting weight on as losing it - there are no quick fixes! Eating fat for the sake of it isn't going to do your body any good Exercise isn't about losing weight if you're under weight - it's well known to INCREASE appetite, help you to relax, and turn calories into muscle. Even a good brisk walk will help (the fresh air does you more good than an air conditioned gym) Sheesh - for a 'healthy living group', there is some damned bad 'advice' posted here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaliRichard Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 When I started training in pro wrestling I started a diet to gain two stone. Every diet is different, and you should consult a Doctor or nutritianist before starting any diet, but I'll tell you roughly what mine entailed (I wanted to gain weight but not excess fat - although any weight gain will involve some fat). I had a baguel as soon as I woke up, six weetabix with full fat milk for breakfast, then throughout the day a total of four tablespoons of peanut butter, four eggs, two portions of peanuts, two bananas, a tablespoon of olive oil, a normal dinner and a tub of cottage cheese before bed. I must repeat that everyone is different and I am not giving you a diet, just an idea of good foods for weight gain, in addition I had protein and carb shakes before hitting the gym - but these are supplements, NOT meal replacements. Excercise is good for weight gain too, depending on goal their are excercises for both weight gain as well as weight loss. Muscle weighs more than fat so even modertae toning excercises will increase weight. I think the two most important things to remember are you are different to person 'x', so you will need a diet/excercise sculpted specifically for you, and stay away from 'fads' or self proclaimed 'experts', the best place to go is your Doctor, failing that a combination of reputable dietician/personal trainer will help, but check out their credentials before using them. I hope that was helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asianmouse Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 For the most part, I would agree with PaliRichard and his post except for going to the doctors. Doctors know very little about nutrition, they are the last people you should go to. They'll probably prescribe a pill for you to put on the weight, knowing how they work. Unless, of course the doctor is holistic and promotes "natural" and organic way of living, but I highly doubt there are many doctors out there who are promoting this way of living. Most fall in the mainstream, pharmaceutical payroll, prescribing a pill for very ill. Being a nutrition expert, a personal trainer and fitness competitor. I don't like to give generic fitness and nutrition advice because everybody's body and nutrition type is different. Not to mention, there is very little detail about your lifestyle and the cause of the stress to properly access the problem. You have specific problem, you need to go to a specific person with specific knowledge of your problem to find the solution. Going to forum to ask for some direction is a start, but none of the folks are nutritionist or people in the health or fitness profession. So, obviously you have to consider your sources. I can give you some advice and tips, since I happen to be educated in that field, you can contact me at nyla@betterbodyforlife.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaliRichard Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 With respect asianmouse I would like to pick up on a couple of your points. First of all, Doctor's should be consulted before a change in diet because many people have underlying conditions that may prevent them from starting a new lifestyle direction. Nutritionalists alone may not pick up on such conditions. Secondly you seem to be of the opinion that holistic practicioners have a) more knowledge and b) better ethics than main stream Doctors. While I respect holistic and alternative practicioners (two very close friends perform various holistic techniques) I think its a little unfair to suggest that 'Unless, of course the doctor is holistic and promotes "natural" and organic way of living' they are somehow inferior. I have come across many mainstream Doctors who are, as you imply, working on behalf of the drug companies but I have come across many more who ate genuinely caring, compassionate and knowledgeable regarding their patients. Likewise I have had more than one run on with phony holistic practicioners who either try to scam, or on my opinion much worse, genuinely believe in their skills when in fact they possess none whatsoever. You see in all fields there are good and bad, and to say X group of people is generically bad to me shows a lack of understanding. Lastly, while I am by no means casting doubt on your personal knowledge or skills the very fact that you follow 'Going to forum to ask for some direction is a start, but none of the folks are nutritionist or people in the health or fitness profession' with 'I can give you some advice and tips, since I happen to be educated in that field' strikes me as a little curious. If the poster wishes to ask you for advice (let me stress I am not commenting on your ability, just the seemingly one sided nature of your post) I would suggest that she ask for some professional credentials from you, and if you are genuine I would think you would be more than happy to provide verifiable certification to anyone who may be interested in taking your advice. To end, let me just stress that I am not being personal or casting doubt on asianmouse as a practicioner, just looking out for forum users in a field that I myself have a reasonable amount of knowledge in but that is renowned for its cowboys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 I really don;t want to take those protein shakes, they are gross! They won't help either, you won't use protein that you don't need. I'd suggest going against your gut feeling and doing a bit of exercise, you'll find that it stimulates your appetite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asianmouse Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 To further enlighten our readers with your critique of my thoughts and opinions on mainstream doctors. Here are my answers to the points that you have raised. First of all, Doctor's should be consulted before a change in diet because many people have underlying conditions that may prevent them from starting a new lifestyle direction. Nutritionalists alone may not pick up on such conditions. Why would you consult doctors about your diet and nutrition when only approximately 6% of those doctors have training in nutrition? Here is a quote of an article written by a doctor that've I found: “In medical school I had not received any significant instruction on the subject. I was not alone. Only approximately 6 percent of the graduating physicians in the United States have any training in nutrition. Medical students may take elective courses on the topic, but few actually do… the education of most physicians is disease-oriented with a heavy emphasis on pharmaceuticals — we learn about drugs and why and when to use them.” Here is the full link, for those interested on reading the remaining article here. All comments, are welcome if you have read the article and understand the facts being raised in there. Secondly you seem to be of the opinion that holistic practicioners have a) more knowledge and b) better ethics than main stream Doctors. While I respect holistic and alternative practicioners (two very close friends perform various holistic techniques) I think its a little unfair to suggest that 'Unless, of course the doctor is holistic and promotes "natural" and organic way of living' they are somehow inferior. Well, their "professional opinions" are biased because 1) MOST don't have formal education, never mind experience in nutrition and how would they even go about to prescribe a remedy, other than telling the patient to take a pill. 2) I'm not saying that ALL doctors are nutritionally illiterate, just pointing out to the fact that 94% of them are. Medical professionals like Dr.Mercola are rare, those are the doctors who have researched and know their stuff. I have come across many mainstream Doctors who are, as you imply, working on behalf of the drug companies but I have come across many more who ate genuinely caring, compassionate and knowledgeable regarding their patients. Yes, I'm sure they do care, and are compassionate doctors, but doesn't mean they can't be used as pawns or tools to promote pharmaceuticals drugs on uninformed public. Case in point with this is Dr. Mercola, he thought he was doing a great service by informing the public about a certain medication that can help diabetes, only to find out that the drug companies were using him and his name to champion their drug. He only realized this when he researched further into the drug. However, now that he is aware of how deceptive this drug companies are in their tactics in reaching and influencing the public to use their drugs, he has adopted a "holistic" and more "natural" approach to medicine. I'm only using Mercola as an example because he's one of the easily recognizable doctors out there for people to relate too. Likewise I have had more than one run on with phony holistic practicioners who either try to scam, or on my opinion much worse, genuinely believe in their skills when in fact they possess none whatsoever. You see in all fields there are good and bad, and to say X group of people is generically bad to me shows a lack of understanding. Well, this is a very generic statement, what exactly were they practicing that you deemed phony, illegitimate and disingenuous? Lastly, while I am by no means casting doubt on your personal knowledge or skills the very fact that you follow 'Going to forum to ask for some direction is a start, but none of the folks are nutritionist or people in the health or fitness profession' with 'I can give you some advice and tips, since I happen to be educated in that field' strikes me as a little curious. If the poster wishes to ask you for advice (let me stress I am not commenting on your ability, just the seemingly one sided nature of your post) I would suggest that she ask for some professional credentials from you, and if you are genuine I would think you would be more than happy to provide verifiable certification to anyone who may be interested in taking your advice. Just makes sense to me to ask for advice from people who are experienced, trained or at least knowledgeable in what they are talking about. It's kinda pointless asking opinions from people who are not adept or have some type of specialized knowledge in the field. Yes, I do agree what you should ask for some type of credentials, relevant experience or the source of where they are getting this information from. Yes, I am aware that my opinions are biased and less favorable towards mainstream pharmaceutical doctors, who wouldn't be knowing that only 6% of them are actually literate in nutrition. Personally, if I'm going to take a doctor's opinion about what I ought or not eat, I would hope to expect that the physician knows more about macronutrients and micronutrients than me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaliRichard Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 asianmouse I can't post a reply, there is something wrong with my comp, I'll get back to you at a later date Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 You realise that the article you link and the argument you make about pharmaceutical companies is very American Asianmouse? Doctors in the UK are not free to prescribe something just because a company suggests it, they're definitely not free to get any kind of kick back on it, it's all regulated and controlled centrally by the NHS. You're probably correct that most doctors in the UK don't have a great deal of specific education about nutrition. They will certainly have a good basic understanding of the topic though and if necessary they will be able to refer someone to a specialist who does have the detailed training and experience necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scozzie Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 you could try a number od past dishes - as other people have mentioned. You can cook some, stick it in the fridge and have it cold, warm it up and have it hot - put CHEESE on it. :thumbs up: Obvioulsy eat other things too, but pasta is great, especially is you want to excercise. http://www.bbcgoodfood.com/content/recipes/favourites/pasta/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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