Cyclone Posted September 23, 2010 Share Posted September 23, 2010 Insurance has always been expensive for the younger drivers, it's not just young drivers they need to look, it's some of the elderly drivers too, many times I've been stuck behind some elderly person travelling at a max of 25mph. Some might think that seems safe, but actually it can be dangerous as not everyone will be willing to stay behind the elderly driver and that's also when accidents can happen. They should also look at mandatory speeds, i.e, a 40mph limit should mean that, if you can be prosecuted for doing 45mph you should also be prosecuted for doing 35mph on the same stretch of road, presuming the road is clear. Minimum speed limits already exist, but enforcing the limit as a target is an ill thought out and dangerous idea. In traffic, in inclement weather, in different types of vehicle, at bends, and approaching junctions. You reduce your speed for all these. More laws should be introduced for pedestrians, such as Jay Walking cossing in only designated places to me will save more lives than a night driving ban on younger drivers. I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted September 23, 2010 Share Posted September 23, 2010 The far simpler solution is to simply raise the legal driving age to 21 or even 25. People in their late teens and early 20s are too immature to drive, and generally only do so to show off and attract the opposite sex. As others have said, you don’t need a car for work if you choose a job that’s either close to home or accessible by public transport, so clearly people under 21 don’t need to drive at all! Because that's completely proportional. People who've graduated uni for 3 years still not allowed to drive. That wouldn't make it difficult to find a real job at all, or to move out, or have a normal life. At 25 I was driving 30k miles a year for work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted September 23, 2010 Share Posted September 23, 2010 'tis simple. Do what pilots do. Have a night rating that allows you to drive in the dark after you have passed a test to show your competence. Difficult to police though. The police can't do random stops and it's drivers that gain the ability, not vehicles, so how do they know who to pull up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted September 23, 2010 Share Posted September 23, 2010 The same can be said about an ordinary licence can't it? Or drunks. Or those without insurance. A more precise licensing system, with regular medical certification maybe, seems like a reasonable compromise since it would reflect conditions, training and ability. Obviously I'm pushing the envelope here since useless drivers would complain about their rights to have accidents, damage property, injure and kill people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alchresearch Posted September 23, 2010 Share Posted September 23, 2010 Daft idea or have the Taffy members of academia discovered startling new evidence that young motorists suffer from night vison problems? Well said. Its nothing to do with the darkness, but its all to do with the fact that night time is simply when young drivers are out socialising with their mates. Make every young person work nights and have their social free time in the day and the crashes would just happen in the day instead. The problem is nothing more than a combination of showing off in front of their mates or girlfriends and losing control under certain road conditions because of their lack of skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted September 23, 2010 Share Posted September 23, 2010 The same can be said about an ordinary licence can't it? Or drunks. Or those without insurance. A more precise licensing system, with regular medical certification maybe, seems like a reasonable compromise since it would reflect conditions, training and ability. Obviously I'm pushing the envelope here since useless drivers would complain about their rights to have accidents, damage property, injure and kill people. A vehicle has to have insurance, a vehicle doesn't have to have a license. The same could be said about the basic license though yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted September 23, 2010 Share Posted September 23, 2010 A driver may not be insured to drive that vehicle though even if the vehicle is insured. It's all rather irrelevant though since it would be political dynamite to make real move towards actually making the roads safer. Imagine the ructions something easy and of stuff all consequence like a 20mph urban limit would cause. Nope, sad to say that we get the drivers we deserve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmilyM Posted September 23, 2010 Share Posted September 23, 2010 Most of my first driving lessons were on dark evenings, I actually found it easier sometimes, e.g. you can see headlights or their reflections if you're at a give way which is a blind corner, so you see approaching cars sooner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harleyman Posted September 23, 2010 Share Posted September 23, 2010 Well said. Its nothing to do with the darkness, but its all to do with the fact that night time is simply when young drivers are out socialising with their mates. Make every young person work nights and have their social free time in the day and the crashes would just happen in the day instead. The problem is nothing more than a combination of showing off in front of their mates or girlfriends and losing control under certain road conditions because of their lack of skills. I wouldnt ban every young driver from night driving because of the irresponsibility of a minority. That hardly seems fair. What should be done is once a younger driver is convicted of drunk driving or driving in a crazy manner a 3 year restriction on night driving be placed on their license. If they are caught driving at night after that then they lose their license completely for two years afterwards no questions aksed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manunited4 Posted September 23, 2010 Share Posted September 23, 2010 I wouldnt ban every young driver from night driving because of the irresponsibility of a minority. That hardly seems fair. What should be done is once a younger driver is convicted of drunk driving or driving in a crazy manner a 3 year restriction on night driving be placed on their license. If they are caught driving at night after that then they lose their license completely for two years afterwards no questions aksed. thats a very good idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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