Angry at schools dictatorship/need advice.

[Mr Prime]

And when the school says all this info was there before the child started at the school?

 

And why should the child not be put in detention? Are you telling school staff how to run schools now? If a child breaks fundamental rules on dress they are punished, that is the way it has always been. Saying it is an issue with the parents is irrelevant because with a child it always is.

[Suffragette1]

And when the school says all this info was there before the child started at the school?

 

And why should the child not be put in detention? Are you telling school staff how to run schools now? If a child breaks fundamental rules on dress they are punished, that is the way it has always been. Saying it is an issue with the parents is irrelevant because with a child it always is.

 

But it's not the child who's at fault, this is a parental decision for which the child is being punished, which is wrong.

[hard2miss]

You are supporting a keep your kids off school day.

How responsible is this ?

As responsible as a school is for punishing a child over a logo. What lesson is that then, certainly not one of the 3 R's, more like a lesson in bullying.

[Suffragette1]

That is odd because if it is the school I think it is looking at their website it says nothing about having to wear a particular logo on the PE Kit, just that a suitable item is available from them, not that they are the only source of PE kits.

 

I think you should complain to the school Governors, because they are the people that formally set the school uniform policy.

 

I would make the argument about cost because they are under obligation to consider costs, they are also recommended to consult with parents before making changes to the school uniform policy, so I would ask why you weren't consulted before they changed the policy that is still there advertised on their website. I would also complain about arbitrary detention of your child for a rule they have not published on their website. Claim it as a human rights issue, because it is... I don't know where it will get you.... but it will be interesting to see their response. They have obviously upset you and you should therefore make sure they are made aware of it, so they follow the guidelines properly in future and don't cause parents unnecesary distress that is after all why the guidelines are published. I would certainly express my unhappiness with their attitude. If you send your child to school with the wrong kit, they are supposed to take a sympathetic and supportive approach including putting you in touch with any local authority financial support hat might be available to help pay for the uniform.

 

Some info:

 

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Parents/Schoolslearninganddevelopment/SchoolLife/DG_4016078

 

http://www.teachernet.gov.uk/management/atoz/u/uniform/

From the second website:

 

schools can use their own purchasing power to buy in bulk and pass on savings to parents. Governing bodies should not seek to operate as sole suppliers in order to raise additional funds through the sale of new school uniforms; and that

 

 

schools can use their own purchasing power to buy in bulk and pass on savings to parents. Governing bodies should not seek to operate as sole suppliers in order to raise additional funds through the sale of new school uniforms; and that

 

all schools which have a uniform policy should have arrangements in place to ensure that no family feels unable to apply for admission on account of high uniform costs. This applies equally to sports kits and any other specialist equipment outlined in the policy. Schemes for remission of cost should cover children eligible for free school meals, and children whose parents are entitled to the maximum level of working tax credit. Schemes should be administered discreetly so that no parent is embarrassed to ask for help. These schemes should be widely publicised and clearly explained in admissions, or other literature provided by the school.

[Mr Prime]

But it's not the child who's at fault, this is a parental decision for which the child is being punished, which is wrong.

 

I wish I had thought of this excuse when I was in my detentions, I was a product of my parents so it was all their fault by your reckoning. I should have refused to be punished and got my pushy mummy to complain about her rights.

[Wildcat]

And when the school says all this info was there before the child started at the school?

 

And why should the child not be put in detention? Are you telling school staff how to run schools now? If a child breaks fundamental rules on dress they are punished, that is the way it has always been. Saying it is an issue with the parents is irrelevant because with a child it always is.

 

But the rule isn't there on the website.

 

The child shouldn't be put in detention because they have not broken any rule

 

Article 9 UDHR: "No one shall be subjected to arbitrary arrest, detention or exile."

 

What the school appears to be teaching is abuse of authority and breaching international human rights law, not something that is a part of the national curriculum and something I doubt most parents want their children to be taught.

[hard2miss]

I wish I had thought of this excuse when I was in my detentions, I was a product of my parents so it was all their fault by your reckoning. I should have refused to be punished and got my pushy mummy to complain about her rights.

Why would you have to be pushy to expect they respect your rights ?

 

 

Key words : Her rights.

[Suffragette1]

I wish I had thought of this excuse when I was in my detentions, I was a product of my parents so it was all their fault by your reckoning. I should have refused to be punished and got my pushy mummy to complain about her rights.

 

Really? Did your mother also bring you up to be facetious and miss the point?

 

This is beyond the OP's son's control. Naughty behaviour (ruling out any syndrome or disorder) is not.

[Mr Prime]

But the rule isn't there on the website.

 

The child shouldn't be put in detention because they have not broken any rule

 

Article 9 UNHCR: "No one shall be subjected to arbitrary arrest, detention or exile."

 

What the school appears to be teaching is abuse of authority, not something that is a part of the national curriculum and sometthing I doubt most parents want their children to be taught.

 

I am sure you are wiser than the collective leadership of the school. Forgive me. Bringing in human rights is simply ridiculous and the website is not the only source of info. Did the OP do any face to face research to establish dress code?

 

I am sure teachers across the planet would be puzzled by your new definitions of when a child has not done something wrong. Wearing the wrong clothes is the most basic rule of all but you seem to believe this can all be turned into a mush of ethics like a US courtroom. Madness. Another poster on here seems to think if his kid turns up without his PE kit his kid should not be punished and the teacher should take time out to ring him! He was not joking. This kind of wet thinking amazes me and explains a lot of what is wrong with society.

[harvey19]

As responsible as a school is for punishing a child over a logo. What lesson is that then, certainly not one of the 3 R's, more like a lesson in bullying.

 

It is a lesson to show that rules are to be obeyed.

There is no mention of other pupils not complying with the dress regulations.