Angry at schools dictatorship/need advice.

[Mr Prime]

Really? Did your mother also bring you up to be facetious and miss the point?

 

This is beyond the OP's son's control. Naughty behaviour (ruling out any syndrome or disorder) is not.

 

Beyond control or not how much time do you think teachers should put into analysing all this? Kid in wrong uniform = detention. Once rules start getting watered down where does it end? As I said I am a child of the late 80's and what I am reading amazes me. It makes me feel like I went to a Victorian school.

[Mr Prime]

Why would you have to be pushy to expect they respect your rights ?

 

 

Key words : Her rights.

 

I don't remember right being discussed in the ancient days when I was at school, just rules and earned priveleges. Unless there were violent teachers or other extremism rights did not come into it. I don't see why it should change. The number of spoilt brats I see calling their parents stupid or worse is being explained on here.

[Suffragette1]

Beyond control or not how much time do you think teachers should put into analysing all this? Kid in wrong uniform = detention. Once rules start getting watered down where does it end? As I said I am a child of the late 80's and what I am reading amazes me. It makes me feel like I went to a Victorian school.

 

Well, I for one think it outrageous to punish a child in this manner, a Year 7 child too who is having to make all kinds of adjustments. A better and more conciliatory approach would have been to let the kid partake in PE and send a note home to the parent/s/guardian explaining that if he were not in the regulation kit by a set date, then detention would enforced. what is the point of websites unless they contain up-to-date and accurate information and guidance?

[hard2miss]

I am sure you are wiser than the collective leadership of the school. Forgive me. Bringing in human rights is simply ridiculous and the website is not the only source of info. Did the OP do any face to face research to establish dress code?

 

I am sure teachers across the planet would be puzzled by your new definitions of when a child has not done something wrong. Wearing the wrong clothes is the most basic rule of all but you seem to believe this can all be turned into a mush of ethics like a US courtroom. Madness. Another poster on here seems to think if his kid turns up without his PE kit his kid should not be punished and the teacher should take time out to ring him! He was not joking. This kind of wet thinking amazes me and explains a lot of what is wrong with society.

Have some kids and get off the soap box.

 

I have nothing against uniform but when schools use their authority to drag money in then its time to question what it has to do with their education.

 

This is true I jest not, our school has days when you DO NOT have to wear the uniform for the sum £1.

 

Now justify that if its so important.

[harvey19]

 

At my son's school, the PE Kit is regulation and has the kid's name embroidered onto it, so you can't even hand it down to a sibling or pass it onto a friend's kid. Yet they have no uniform.

 

I think this is to avoid arguments regarding ownership.

[Suffragette1]

I think this is to avoid arguments regarding ownership.

 

Then sew in a nametape, which is what I do on other items as well as my daughter's uniform.

[Suffragette1]

Have some kids and get off the soap box.

 

I have nothing against uniform but when schools use their authority to drag money in then its time to question what it has to do with their education.

 

This is true I jest not, our school has days when you DO NOT have to wear the uniform for the sum £1.

 

Now justify that if its so important.

I don't mind that if it's for a designated cause or for a charity, such as Children in Need etc etc.

[harvey19]

Then sew in a nametape, which is what I do on other items as well as my daughter's uniform.

 

Maybe the school thought they were helping the parents by avoiding them having to do this.

[Mr Prime]

Have some kids and get off the soap box.

 

I have nothing against uniform but when schools use their authority to drag money in then its time to question what it has to do with their education.

 

This is true I jest not, our school has days when you DO NOT have to wear the uniform for the sum £1.

 

Now justify that if its so important.

 

Well I am with you there, that sounds very strange. The marketisation of schools?

[Wildcat]

I am sure you are wiser than the collective leadership of the school. Forgive me. Bringing in human rights is simply ridiculous and the website is not the only source of info. Did the OP do any face to face research to establish dress code?

 

I am sure teachers across the planet would be puzzled by your new definitions of when a child has not done something wrong. Wearing the wrong clothes is the most basic rule of all but you seem to believe this can all be turned into a mush of ethics like a US courtroom. Madness. Another poster on here seems to think if his kid turns up without his PE kit his kid should not be punished and the teacher should take time out to ring him! He was not joking. This kind of wet thinking amazes me and explains a lot of what is wrong with society.

 

Where does the collective leadership of the school come in to this? We have a parent who's child is being given detention for not conforming to a rule they haven't properly publicised, indeed what information they do publish says that the parent has done no wrong.

 

I mention human rights because they are being breached by arbitrary detention I am not suggesting a court case or anything.

 

I also don't accept that in the past parents would have let their children be bullied by unwritten rules, indeed I can think of an example where a head teacher at my school got a black eye from a parent for hitting his kid without permission. I am not condoning their behaviour I hasten to add, but things haven't changed that much. For any system to work and bring children up properly they need rules and fair punishments as a last resort. Anything else leads to problems, and the bad behaviour you are complaining about.