mj.scuba Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 It was widely predicted he would immediately position himself centre and distance himself from the Unions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyfriday Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Not quite the same Ed that that was canvassing for the Labour leadership, he's changed his message completely. Hmm, my ears pricked when I heard him use the phrase 'social conservatism' or was it 'conservative socialism'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vague_Boy Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 It's good to see that all the negative coverage by the Murdoch / Tory press does has not for the moment, put people off Labour. Is it? Why? Labourtives or Conbour, it makes no difference. Different sides of the same bent coin. Look at a picture of Ed Milliband, then David Cameron: Twelve voices were shouting in anger, and they were all alike. No question, now, what had happened to the faces of the pigs. The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shy talk Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Hmm, my ears pricked when I heard him use the phrase 'social conservatism' or was it 'conservative socialism'? If it was national socialism he'd get my vote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RosyRat Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 He's scrabbling hard to climb up on to the middle ground and seems to have put the unions in their place. http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/blog/2010/sep/28/labour-conference-live-blog-tuesday Who are "the Unions"? An earlier poster on this thread actually said that the Unions got Ed Milliband elected leader, not the ordinary Labour Party members. The ordinary Labour Party members are the Unions. All the Labour Party members I know and all who are listed on the national database are Union members, current or retired. So all will have received 2 ballot papers. One from the party and one from their Union. So how does this sit with the Unions (a) being in their place and (b) being in conflict with the membership? The Trade Union members did not get a block vote for the membership. We all voted individually, either online or by post. You can't put "the Unions in their place". You'd have to put the entire Party membership in the same one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyfriday Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 If it was national socialism he'd get my vote How did I know you'd support that, Shy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mj.scuba Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Apparently only 3 members of the current shadow cabinet voted for Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossdog Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Not quite the same Ed that that was canvassing for the Labour leadership, he's changed his message completely."Out with the old in with the new"..............we seem to have heard it all before. The party faithful loved it,but to Joe Soap,nothing new,no hint of where any growth could possibly come from.......................loves the words "new" and "optimism".err, cant think of anything else relevant or worth a mention in his speech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonzo77 Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Tonight's Yougov poll show's that Ed Miliband seem's to have gone down well with the electorate and shows Labour ahead for the first time since 2007, see below: YouGov/Sun – 39/40/12 Posted on September 27th, 2010 by Anthony Wells I’ve been predicting for a while that we’d see some conference polls with Labour ahead, and bang on time tonight we have. The first voting intention poll with Ed Miliband as Lavour leader has topline figures of CON 39%, LAB 40%, LDEM 12%. It’s YouGov’s first poll with Labour in front since the election-that-never-was in 2007, and indeed the first time they’ve hit 40. Conference polls are a strange and rather artifical thing of course, Labour might well do even better after Miliband’s speech tomorrow, but I’d expect them to go back behind next week when the Conservatives enjoy their own conference boost. Nevertheless, it’ll be a good boost to Labour morale and presumably Ed Miliband will be delighted to be back in the lead in the polls in his first poll as leader. More to come later (or tomorrow morning) once the Sun publish the rest of the poll. The sooner we get rid of the Cameron & Clegg show the better!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boblet Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Apparently only 3 members of the current shadow cabinet voted for Ed Roughly the same number as the current cabinet who voted for Nick Clegg;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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