purdyamos Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 Well don't be surprised as Christians are discriminated in Western world as well by the atheists and protestants......... Oh dear, you've gone and made yourself look silly again. Where's UpInWath to tell us all that that sort of thing never happens in Paradise ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 its basically "against the....." Well don't be surprised as Christians are discriminated in Western world as well by the atheists and protestants......... I spotted your deliberate mistake.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Erikson Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 The thing with religion is that the two main groups which consist of roughly 2/6th of the global population discriminate against everybody else anyway. Why should the minority (2/6th) dictate the way the other 4/6ths live? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plekhanov Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 I'm rather confused. Isn't 'discrimination of', and 'discrimination against' the same thing? Or is there some grammatical law that sets the two apart? Where's Lord Chavelry when you need him? They are not the same thing, to discriminate is simply to; "Make or constitute a difference in or between; distinguish, differentiate." (SOED definition) this isn't necessarily negative for example there was discrimination for boys under the 11 plus. "Discrimination of Christians" simply says that Christians are being differentiated from other groups, giving no indication of whether this is positive or negative discrimination. Given the way in which people tend to use the term 'discrimination' these days and a knowledge of the OPs political leanings it seemed unlikely to me that the discrimination was of a kind Indonesian Catholics like but strictly speaking the thread title is ambiguous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plekhanov Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 its basically "against the....." Well don't be surprised as Christians are discriminated in Western world as well by the atheists and protestants......... Protestants are Christians, the Indonesian Christians shown in the film enduring discrimination were protestants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandie Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 I watched this program over the weekend which I found both interesting and disturbing. I'd encourage you to watch it start to finish. For a country that is meant to guarantee freedom of religion by its constitution, they don't seem to be upholding it too well. -- Maybe we in the UK should follow their lead, we dont have freedom of religion here, we pussy foot around Muslims because it is PC. When people are in a diffrent country they should abide by the culture of it. There is an old saying "When in Rome do as the Romans do". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purdyamos Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 Maybe we in the UK should follow their lead, we dont have freedom of religion here, we pussy foot around Muslims because it is PC. When people are in a diffrent country they should abide by the culture of it. There is an old saying "When in Rome do as the Romans do". Indonesian Christians are in their own country. This seems like one of those threads where some people just roll out their usual line even if it doesn't make sense! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingjimmy Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 Maybe we in the UK should follow their lead, we dont have freedom of religion here. Yes we do. In what way do we not have freedom of religion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tradescanthia Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 Maybe we in the UK should follow their lead, we dont have freedom of religion here, we pussy foot around Muslims because it is PC. When people are in a diffrent country they should abide by the culture of it. There is an old saying "When in Rome do as the Romans do". In this country we lead by example, we TOLERATE other beliefs. Persecuting others i.e. muslims, jews, etc. was all done centuries ago. Education is the answer, multifaith schools help children understand each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plekhanov Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 Maybe we in the UK should follow their lead, we dont have freedom of religion here, we pussy foot around Muslims because it is PC. When people are in a diffrent country they should abide by the culture of it. There is an old saying "When in Rome do as the Romans do". What a bizarre post. Replete with incoherent furry at Muslims yet simultaneously arguing that we should be more like Indonesian Muslims in there bigotry and intolerance Also good job on somehow failing to notice that Indonesian Christians are in their own country. Just out of interest what do you think the permitted religion in the UK should be? Do you want to go back to non-conformists, Catholics, Jews, free thinkers... and everyone who isn't an Anglican being persecuted or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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