Tories scrapping child benefit for people who earn over £44,000

[staninoodle]

many single mums with 2 children on benefit,by choice or by circumstance,manage on a total annual income £,10,400k per annum,with thier child benefit,DEDUCTED from thier income support.

surley THESE are the people,that benefit was aimed at in its origin.

Children that live in todays uk,in REAL poverty

[Berberis]

really?

 

ive got 4 kids, earn over £44000, in two years child benefit will stop and so will tax credits, as you cant have one without the other. without tax credits ill have to pay full child care costs. so today will cost me £8000 ish. that fair?

 

Did you have your two children because these benefits were available?

[nightrider]

Don't think anyone has mentioned this yet, but isn't there a perverse disincentive stopping people getting a promotion in Osbourne's plan?

 

Say you earn £43,999, and have two kids. This means you get around £1,800 tax free Child Benefit a year on top of your wages. Once you go over £44,000 you lose the benefit and go into the higher tax bracket. This means that you are going to have to have a promotion that pays around £3,000 just to be back where you started (maths ain't my strong point, so no doubt someone clever than me will come in with the exact amount. And the thing is, this disincentive becomes even greater if you have more kids.

 

Not saying that richer people should still get the benefit, but Osbourne's plan looks like a back of an envelop job.

 

well you have to put the threshold somewhere.

[sarasen92]

many single mums with 2 children on benefit,by choice or by circumstance,manage on a total annual income £,10,400k per annum,with thier child benefit,DEDUCTED from thier income support.

surley THESE are the people,that benefit was aimed at in its origin.

Children that live in todays uk,in REAL poverty

 

you exclude rent payments, and community care grants. and csa payments. so thats another 10k ontop

[rich5315]

dont you lot realise its all propaganda to make people in work feel better for doing what they do!, im out of work and in the last 3 weeks my benefit has risen by £30 a week, you look at the cuts the government are saying, none of them will affect the needy which is 40% of the population, its all been said to keep the tax payer sweet! the only just in government has admitted that it will take 2 governments to put these things right, propoganda again cus theres no way they will get a second term, anyone read the internet, we are just on the verge of a second credit crunch and its said the government will have to bail out the banks by 25 billion a month so what will the cut backs do?

[sarasen92]

Did you have your two children because these benefits were available?

 

no, what im saying is £44000 is to low a threshhold for a household income

[staninoodle]

rents and council tax are paid yes,care grants are normally granted as a one time payment,most social fund money is reserved for disabled claimants.

Most of these childrens fathers are on LOW incomes,and pay the bear minimum in csa of £5,per week,if they ever bother paying that at all!

[sarasen92]

rents and council tax are paid yes,care grants are normally granted as a one time payment,most social fund money is reserved for disabled claimants.

Most of these childrens fathers are on LOW incomes,and pay the bear minimum in csa of £5,per week,if they ever bother paying that at all!

 

ok on average another 10k at least.

[Greybeard]

If this policy is Osborne's idea of 'fairness' I dread to think what the rest of his benefit cuts will bring. It has all the hallmarks of being worked out on the back of a fag packet.

 

Wonder what his plans for the winter fuel payments are

[staninoodle]

depends on where you live,the average locallys around an extra 6-6.5k

hardley amounts to 44k before tax,plus csa payments from a father in a better paid job