Tories scrapping child benefit for people who earn over £44,000

[Halibut]

Already two threads about this.

[chem1st]

its should be abolished full stop, why should you get money for having kids

 

Why pay taxes.

 

Why refrain yourself from killing your neighbour and taking his possessions for yourself?

[Suffragette1]

Sorry! but obscene wages in their relation to true value in todays Britain.Docs jobs have become much easier, like auto mechanics who just plug a car into a piece of software for the underlying fault analysis.Nearly all professionals are overpaid in Britain today in relation to their true value.You might not know it but most of us do.In answer to your reply ,"Why shouldn't they"..................that's the problem,get it if you can! but it needs to alter and fast.

 

Yep, it's a doddle being a doctor, especially a GP where you have to have a very broad knowledge rather than a specialist one.

 

If anyone is totally overpaid it's the bankers and their obscene bonuses and professional footballers.

 

£100k + for 9 years expensive study and with all the responsibility that goes with the job seems totally reasonable to me.

[Suffragette1]

You are obviously unaware as to just how expensive ballet classes are these days. After doing my weekly shop at Fortnum & Masons, i barely have enough money left over to fill up my Mercedes.

 

And stabling that pony really eats into one's pocket.

[chem1st]

To be understood literally, mossdog: in France, Germany or Ireland (for example), you pay the GP when you visit, then you have to claim it (or a part of it) back from the NHS equivalent. So you are out of pocket for a short while.

 

Just like you would here with private health insurance (BUPA or another like it) when you go see a specialist.

 

As a (non-medical) professional, I find this approach to it helps people understand and remember that professionals are expected to be paid for their services. Whether the services are reimbursed by the State or not.

 

A nice side benefit (see what I did, there ) is that it tends to discourage needless or nuisance GP visits

 

Sorry for the O/T. Partial O/T, as there is one of my ideas to improve the NHS funding blackhole/address the budget deficit: get people to pay a set fee for every GP visit, to be either reimbursed by NHS or deducted from income tax liability (at taxpayer's choice). Hey presto, nice cashflow lifeline. Say thanks, Mr Osbourne.

Surely that would put the poor off visiting and reduce demand, meaning we could fire doctors as less would be needed.

Fire half of those in cities and have the rural ones work part time?

[Mondeo Man]

A household income of £44k isn't a lot?

Wish I lived in your world!

 

Me too.

 

I earn about half that.

[L00b]

Surely that would put the poor off visiting

Why? In the example countries I mentioned, people on benefits are exempted from payment at the point of consultation (stands to reason, nothing surprising there).

(Note that GPs have more authority, though, to refuse appointments if persons are or become known hypocondriacs )

and reduce demand, meaning we could fire doctors as less would be needed. Fire half of those in cities and have the rural ones work part time?

If demand is effectively reduced (simply by driving down 'excess'/'needless' visits), would that be so bad?

 

It's just another side, or approach, to the management of State expenditure. And, in principle, fully in line with what Cameron is starting with the "tax the earners more" measure of the OP. You're earning? Here, lend us a hand propping up the NHS cashflow, 'cos Labour borked it too bad. Not as if taxpayers haven't heard that one before, by now

[dongle]

Why pay taxes.

 

Why refrain yourself from killing your neighbour and taking his possessions for yourself?

 

i dont see why me paying tax should be given to people who want kids, the more kids you have the more money you get,

[chem1st]

i dont see why me paying tax should be given to people who want kids, the more kids you have the more money you get,

 

The more kids you have, the more money you spend.

 

The more kids you have the more taxpayers you create.

[HeadingNorth]

Also, if I'm earning over £44K i'm already paying more tax into the system. Therefore I should be entitled to smething back!

 

 

The benefits system isn't supposed to reward those who paid in; it's supposed to provide for people who cannot, for whatever (legitimate!) reason, provide for themselves.