Lib Dems - MELTDOWN

[Darth Vader]

Admit what? I don't have any axe to grind about the coalition. Provided they kept Labour out of power, I'd have agreed to almost anything.

 

I really don't see that there was any alternative? If they'd allowed the Conservatives to form a minority Goverment, it wouldn't have lasted very long, and then we would have faced the unthinkable that Labour might have got back in again. If you read the shortsighted ramblings of some members on this forum, they don't seem to be able to grasp the fact that their beloved Labour party is the kiss of death to the country. They would vote for them again tomorrow in spite of all the evidence that they're an unmitigated disaster.

 

You can't depend on the Greens, if you go by the Sheffield experience, they seem to vote with Labour even on issues that they specifically campaign against when not in office. I'm not a member of any political party at the moment, but that's nothing to do with recent events. I closed the bank account that handled the membership fee, and I've done nothing about rejoining because I'm not sure that I want to ally myself with any particular party right now, so that I can say whatever I wish without being accused of being partisan

 

There seems to be something bothering you about your political allegiances - not me - I don't care who you vote for or voted for, or if you gave the monster raving loony party a 50 million donation. What I meant was, why is it so hard to admit, that a guy we thought was different, had integrity, and would bring about real change to politics and a new way, has just had us like all the rest? I was sucked in by him too, I admit it.

[Darth Vader]

The people who wanted Labour out, and the Lib-Dems in their place, are presumably happy. Labour are out, the Lib-Dems are - at least partly - in, and many disastrous Labour policies are being reversed. Large chunks of the Lib-Dem manifesto have been included in the Queen's Speech; for the first time in about eighty years, they are actually in power and getting to implement some of their policies.

 

That's a big presumption. I voted for them in. I'm not happy. I won't be voting for them again. Not while Clegg is the leader. Scriven would be best distancing himself now, in my opinion.

[Grandad.Malky]

why is it so hard to admit, that a guy we thought was different, had integrity, and would bring about real change to politics and a new way, has just had us like all the rest? I was sucked in by him too, I admit it.

 

You and me too …….. but never again.

[dell12]

That's a big presumption. I voted for them in. I'm not happy. I won't be voting for them again. Not while Clegg is the leader. Scriven would be best distancing himself now, in my opinion.

 

Me too.

 

I was sick of some of the things that Labour were doing, and I liked alot of what Clegg was saying pre election. Unfortunately i've realised that what he says is different to what he does.

[Grandad.Malky]

. Unfortunately i've realised that what he says is different to what he does.

 

 

Well that’s 3 of us so far we will be forming a action group next.

[rubydazzler]

... What I meant was, why is it so hard to admit, that a guy we thought was different, had integrity, and would bring about real change to politics and a new way, has just had us like all the rest? I was sucked in by him too, I admit it.

It's not hard to admit, because I don't think it. I think you're being misled by things that are being reported that you have no means of verifying.

 

I think too many people listen to the media or listen to people who have a vested interest in having another political party in power and swallow everything they're fed. I prefer to form my own opinions, even if that means having to read between the lines ...

 

As I said before, I was disappointed in the reaction from the benches, but I can forgive it in a way. When you've just witness the successful giving of a major and extremely contentious speech in the face of massed ranks of donkey-braying into your face, I suppose the relief can manifest itself in unsuitable or unseemly ways. But still, they let themselves down in my eyes.

 

I'm quite interested in how you're all going to act in future elections. Obviously you won't vote Labour, so what will you do? Will you not vote at all, vote for another party, what? I'd prefer to wait for a year or so before I start thinking about how I'll cast my vote. You never know, I might even be sucked in by Labour, they obviously managed to fool a lot of people for a lot of years. And for some, the scales still haven't fallen from their eyes.

[dell12]

 

I'm quite interested in how you're all going to act in future elections. Obviously you won't vote Labour, so what will you do? Will you not vote at all, vote for another party, what? I'd prefer to wait for a year or so before I start thinking about how I'll cast my vote. You never know, I might even be sucked in by Labour, they obviously managed to fool a lot of people for a lot of years. And for some, the scales still haven't fallen from their eyes.

 

I doubt there's going to be an election for a while so I might feel differently by then. A lot can change in 4 1/2 years if it lasts the full term.

 

I voted for Clegg partially on his, and the Lib Dem policies on top up fees and their stance on the environment. I generally felt their heart was in the right place, and after the Iraq war, the lower tax band fiasco and ID cards it was probably time for a change I felt. But to see the Lib Dems, the party I'd voted for, cheering the cuts quite shook me. Didn't seem as if they were too unhappy with the 'compromises' they were having to make.

 

Right now i'd probably go back to voting for Labour so long as they fully abandon their 'New Labour' guise. Labour or Greens I suppose, but it's hard to know how i'll feel closer to an election but it probably won't be the Lib Dems.

[Berberis]

And I suppose democracy allowed those that came third to have a seat at the table ……….. give it a rest.

 

Democracy actual said –

 

1. CON 36.1%

2. LAB 29.0%

3. LD 23.0%

4. Others 11.9%

 

And the government represents 59.1% of the populations will. Tony Blair's Labour party only polled 35.2% back in 2005, was that government undemocratic in your view then, or is that OK because it was Labour

 

You have little understanding of what democracy actually means. Just because the UK has not had a coalition for a very long time does not mean the coalition government is undemocratic.

[Rampent]

i have just had the great satisfaction of cancelling my membership. Couldn't find a cancellation contact number on their website so phoned up the renewals hotline and spoke to a nice chirpy lady who told me that the person i needed to speak to is 'currently unavailable' (off with stress due to excessive workload?) so to email them instead.

 

Said email duly done which included a few choice words about what i think of them (in particular the nauseating back slap after the csr which included some particulary nasty measures against the sick and disabled who are least able to fight back). I also said that i will be voting against av in the upcoming referendum as i would like to see their party annihilated at the next election.

 

The only member of their front benchers that i have any modicum of respect for is vince cable, as at least he had the courage to admit that the cancellation of the forgemasters loan was a 'mistake' and that it would have generated three pounds in revenue for every pound invested. However it doesn't look like any of his power-crazed tory arse-licking colleagues are listening, and i really think he should cross the floor to become an independent mp so there is a credible voice of reason on the opposition benches.

 

best post of the week.

[wednesday1]

I have just had the great satisfaction of cancelling my membership. Couldn't find a cancellation contact number on their website so phoned up the renewals hotline and spoke to a nice chirpy lady who told me that the person I needed to speak to is 'currently unavailable' (off with stress due to excessive workload?) so to email them instead.

 

Said email duly done which included a few choice words about what I think of them (in particular the nauseating back slap after the CSR which included some particulary nasty measures against the sick and disabled who are least able to fight back). I also said that I will be voting against AV in the upcoming referendum as I would like to see their party annihilated at the next election.

 

The only member of their front benchers that I have any modicum of respect for is Vince Cable, as at least he had the courage to admit that the cancellation of the Forgemasters loan was a 'mistake' and that it would have generated three pounds in revenue for every pound invested. However it doesn't look like any of his power-crazed Tory arse-licking colleagues are listening, and I really think he should cross the floor to become an Independent MP so there is a credible voice of reason on the opposition benches.

 

 

 

I'm sure it wont be long before he does!