Mr Prime Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 the child could have been walking and bumped into the woman casuing her death. Could have been but wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Prime Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 Pedestrians have a duty of care to other sidewalk users, such as skaters. I see, it's obviously perfectly fine to cycle or skate on a pavement, the laws against it are just silly nonsense. You know best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llamatron Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 I see, it's obviously perfectly fine to cycle or skate on a pavement, the laws against it are just silly nonsense. You know best. I do hope to be fair that most 4 years olds cycle and skate on the pavement, unless they are in the happy position of living in a cul de sac. Although its still illegal the alternative could be that they learn to cycle on the road which is a scary thought! Just found this: "The introduction of the fixed penalty is not aimed at responsible cyclists who sometimes feel obliged to use the pavement out of fear of traffic and who show consideration to other pavement users when doing so. Chief police officers, who are responsible for enforcement, acknowledge that many cyclists, particularly children and young people, are afraid to cycle on the road, sensitivity and careful use of police discretion is required." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spindrift Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 A child is allowed to walk and cycle on the pavement. Had the child been on foot and bumped into the lady and the lady subsequently died, would you allow her relatives to sue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Prime Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 A child is allowed to walk and cycle on the pavement. Had the child been on foot and bumped into the lady and the lady subsequently died, would you allow her relatives to sue? First I've heard and are you talking about USA or here or both? On foot I would see no issue but if you are controlling something that makes you go faster amongst walking people and the weight of you and it plus speed may knock them over then you should be punished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yog Sothoth Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 Skating's not illegal on the sidewalk dude! Street skating evolved on the sidewalks of the world! AND, without street furniture the trials scene would be non existent! Check out this SICK vid of trials in our fair city of Leeds! Now tell me those dudes are wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Prime Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 I do hope to be fair that most 4 years olds cycle and skate on the pavement, unless they are in the happy position of living in a cul de sac. Although its still illegal the alternative could be that they learn to cycle on the road which is a scary thought! Just found this: "The introduction of the fixed penalty is not aimed at responsible cyclists who sometimes feel obliged to use the pavement out of fear of traffic and who show consideration to other pavement users when doing so. Chief police officers, who are responsible for enforcement, acknowledge that many cyclists, particularly children and young people, are afraid to cycle on the road, sensitivity and careful use of police discretion is required." Discretion is a good thing and if kids do cycle on pavements they should be under supervision if there are people around. As I understand it in this case there was no proper supervision. I'd be interested to know the parents reaction and attitude. I suspect this is what made the son want to sue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Prime Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 Skating's not illegal on the sidewalk dude! Street skating evolved on the sidewalks of the world! AND, without street furniture the trials scene would be non existent! Check out this SICK vid of trials in our fair city of Leeds! Now tell me those dudes are wrong! Well it's news to me and I have nothing against skaters, I usually see them do it in wide open concourses, the South Bank in London being a popular one. If someone came hurtling along the pavement amongst a crowd of shoppers then that's a different story in my eyes at least. I can't imagine a copper would ignore it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yog Sothoth Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 and further to my last post, here's a vid of one of the finest sports people Sheffield has ever produced, the one and only Steve Peat, World Downhill Mountain Bike Champion, styling it big time on the streets of our city. You gonna tell me he's a bad man? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Well, none of us were there and none of us actually saw what happened. At 87, I'd bet this lady's eyesight and reflexes weren't the best, poor thing. She may have walked in front of the children not seeing them and they couldn't stop in time. On the other hand, how fast were they going if they knocked her down? I'm curious to know if the police were ever involved in this and if so, who was cited and for what. I thought anybody could get a copy of the police report, but I could be wrong. Hmmm, wonder if there's a copy available online? That's assuming the police were ever called in the first place, but I'll bet it's not free. I'm not sure how her son is pursuing this? I'm assuming civilly, rather than criminally. People have been found innocent in criminal court yet guilty in civil court. OJ Simpson is a good example of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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