Billy Casper Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 I don't think the OP has a problem with anyone having a second income etc, but it's the fact that 'non trades people' can afford to undercut to a large degree, therefore making it difficult for genuine tradesmen to earn a crust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Gobby Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Yes i agree.But you can't single out firemen being the crux of the problem, there are many people in public sector jobs that have a second income and probably not all of them declare it. Lets face it this type of thing happens at the very top of the chain. All i would suggest is find a second job to support you through the quite times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glennis Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 My husband was a fire fighter for over 30 years, i don't know one fire man that doesn't have a second job, most do work for each other ,that keeps them all busy just doing work for friends, how about people that do work for their familys on the side ? We had only firemen working on our house when we first bought it, knowing them all we could leave them in the house all day knowing nothing would fanish in turn my husband would work in their houses when they changed shifts. The union did a few years back did agree to stop the men going to lock-outs as it wasn't fair to the local locksmiths. Many Airline pilots have second jobs too, they have them to fall back on as their jobs rely on their frequent physical exams, also there's the ones on benefits that are working too. Interesting, in a way, because fireman expected support during their strike from the working public, but in return seem quite happy to take work away from the working public in return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppins Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Interesting, in a way, because fireman expected support during their strike from the working public, but in return seem quite happy to take work away from the working public in return. Then again, maybe they do a better job than others, ones that worked on our house did top shelf workmanship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lotar Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 ... if they were any good they would be doing it full time, that way they could at least stop crying about shift patterns, pay etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppins Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Interesting, in a way, because fireman expected support during their strike from the working public, but in return seem quite happy to take work away from the working public in return. If you had a leaky tap and you're friend next door knew how to fix it, would you ask him or look in the phone book for a plumber ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppins Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 ... if they were any good they would be doing it full time, that way they could at least stop crying about shift patterns, pay etc... Some men are Multitaskers you know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Casper Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 If you had a leaky tap and you're friend next door knew how to fix it, would you ask him or look in the phone book for a plumber ? There's a massive difference between doing a neighbour a quick favour and threatening someones business/livlihood. And it's the 'moonlighters' who actually go seeking the work that seem to be the problem the OP is on about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carosio Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Interesting, in a way, because fireman expected support during their strike from the working public, but in return seem quite happy to take work away from the working public in return. Most tradespeople and professionals alike don't enter their vocations because of philanthropy, they seek the best lifestyle they can attain for themselves and their families. Similarly, most customers seek the best deal that is available in a free market, they will not voluntarily subsidise, by way of choosing the highest quote, the job security of the suppliers of the goods or services that they receive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F. Sidebottom Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Surely if these firemen are spending their 'resting' hours doing fiddle work, it will affect their ability to perform the their best when being paid by the tax payer to undertake a duty? Maybe it's time to enforce a ban and make it a sackable offence if found out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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