Geoff Posted November 12, 2003 Share Posted November 12, 2003 Does anyone here have any plans on going down to London to make their views known to George W. Bush? I know Sheffield has an active anti-war group but is anyone else going down? Is it really worthwile, do you think Bush would actually care even if they are allowed near him? I'm interested in hearing your views. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alchresearch Posted November 12, 2003 Share Posted November 12, 2003 He's not arriving 'till next week. Plenty of time to burn those US flags on The Mall! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phanerothyme Posted November 12, 2003 Share Posted November 12, 2003 Originally posted by Geoff Does anyone here have any plans on going down to London to make their views known to George W. Bush? I know Sheffield has an active anti-war group but is anyone else going down? Is it really worthwile, do you think Bush would actually care even if they are allowed near him? I'm interested in hearing your views. It's not so much a question of whether a demonstration will have much impact - it's more about people standing up and being counted for what they believe in. What many anti-bush protestors believe is that GWB instigated an unecessary war in the face of a complete capitulation by Iraq previous to the invasion. Others are protesting because they believe the imprisonment of not-POWs, not-criminals, and not-terrorists (categorised by the US neologism 'unlawful combatants') without trial, representation or any form of habeas corpus is an affront to the world of 'peace and justice' that the USA claims to promote and export. Others, like me, simply believe that GWB and Blair are outright liars that started a war for completely different reasons than the ones that they gave, and even now are trying to post-rationalise their actions with completely different reasons for invasion. Not only should they be ejected from office, but they should both have to face close scrutiny on their parts in bringing about this war, preferably under oath. Of course a protest will not bring any of these issues to a resolution, but it will hopefully keep the issue high on the poltical and public agenda. The worst thing that could happen is this story gradually sinks beyond trace as the govt would like it to do as quickly as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BensoN Posted November 12, 2003 Share Posted November 12, 2003 im too lazy to do anything about anything so im just going to sit back and watch our gr8 country turn into another crappy America, along with the rest of you, as it dosent really matter what we think and how much time we spend protesting about things, governments have this annoying tendency to act first and appologise afterwards. tiz a sad world were living in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidla Posted November 12, 2003 Share Posted November 12, 2003 Originally posted by BensoN im too lazy to do anything about anything Are you sure you're not my twin brother, who I know nothing about? That is exactly what I was about to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lickszz Posted November 12, 2003 Share Posted November 12, 2003 I find it ironic that some months ago, Bush told Prince Charles that a visit by him to the U.S. would be unwelcome - apparently due to his adverse attitude to the invasion of Iraq. Interesting that Blair is now planning to welcome Bush to Britain with open arms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlwarker Posted November 13, 2003 Share Posted November 13, 2003 Regarding the Bush visit - does anyone know if there is any kind of protest planned in Sheffield? It would be nice if there was a series of protests all around Britain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phanerothyme Posted November 13, 2003 Share Posted November 13, 2003 Originally posted by BensoN im too lazy to do anything about anything no probs, not everyone is, you sit back and watch it on the telly so im just going to sit back and watch our gr8 country turn into another crappy America, along with the rest of you, as it dosent really matter what we think and how much time we spend protesting about things, governments have this annoying tendency to act first and appologise afterwards. That is what they want you to think. You know why the police were so nice on March 15th demo? Because there was sweet FA they could do if over a million people decided to do something they didn't like. Trust me on this, the effect may not be direct, but opinions are influenced, and ALL politicians, apart from the retiring or dead (dead and still lying!), are looking at getting reelected or elected, and will say anything you like if you promise them your vote (of course you still don't have to give it to them!) Originally posted by Carlwarker Regarding the Bush visit - does anyone know if there is any kind of protest planned in Sheffield? It would be nice if there was a series of protests all around Britain. The Stop the War Coalition has slots of information on national and local events. There is one in Sheffield on Saturday more info here. Plus lots of information on local groups within Sheffield, such as Nether Edge against (the) War See you there. May bring my drum if anyone else wants to turn up and bang on about the war! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellis Posted November 13, 2003 Share Posted November 13, 2003 why bother going anyway ..lets face it its not gonna change anything an just think for all the police there having to police the jesus sandle brigade will be money wasted when it could be better spent fighting crime rather than wasting it on a bunch of losers if 100 thousand turn up theyl be saying where speaking for the country etc etc funny thing i always thought the populatin was 60 million or somthing give or take a few hundred thousand a seekers and illegals 100 thousand ..out of 60 million very very impressive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiyabeing Posted November 14, 2003 Share Posted November 14, 2003 Originally posted by Carlwarker Regarding the Bush visit - does anyone know if there is any kind of protest planned in Sheffield? It would be nice if there was a series of protests all around Britain. Yes CarlWalker - 12 at Barkers Pool (City Hall - Ibeleive) and 12.30 at Peace Gardens. I also believe theirs something going on in morning at Town Hall - for kids and adults! Anyone know more details????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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