Workfare - Long-term jobless 'made to work'

[espadrille]

Rupert

 

I am interested in what was said by the man who couldn't get workers in this country to learn how to cook curry.

I really wonder why this is.

Is it down to the fact that Uk workers aren't motivated and show little interest.

Is this partly due to have it easy with a life or at least decades on benefits?

 

You seem to be able to be objective about this issue, maybe the experience of living in another country helps to see the situation more as an outsider, but it is certainly something that I am keen to understand, especially as I can remember that it wasn't always like this.

We used to be able to manufacture cars. How many cars that are on our roads are truly British made.

How many electrical appliances?

[espadrille]

This has been a project that has been run since the 1980's (at least) and so isn't new at all... It's a joke to pretend otherwise... A4e, Remploy, CTS, Wise - that's what they do, take the work-shy and send em out on 'work experience'...

 

But many people just end up going on endless training courses or work schemes that do little to further any chance of work.

Hopefully this carrot and stick approach will be more successful.

Lets hope so.

[Greybeard]

But many people just end up going on endless training courses or work schemes that do little to further any chance of work.

Hopefully this carrot and stick approach will be more successful.

Lets hope so.

 

And how does this proposal offer anything different ?

 

The stick is pretty obvious, - but where's the carrot ?

[staninoodle]

id be in favour, but there should be some reward above the normal jsa,as they will incur travel costs,require work clothes ect,or at least be paid a portion of the minimum wage.

This smacks of typical toryism,putting people on the dole,lowering dole money and housing benefit,then getting them to do the same jobs theyve just lost for a fraction of thier previous wage!!

On the other hand,it grates me to see people in pyjamas at 11 am,or just opening thier curtains,while iv done 3 hours graft!

Welfare is a massive cost to all of us,but....how does a person at work all day apply for a job?

AND,are we a fair society if we expect people to do a full days work for £10??

[Rupert_Baehr]

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[BritPat]

The government is about to introduce a scheme to force the long-term unemployed to work or face losing their benefits.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11704765

 

Do you agree this with this or not? Should people have to work for benefits?

 

If a job exists a worker should be hired to to do the job, benefits are paid to those unable to work or without work.

 

These measures turn the unemployed into 'Slave Labour' and remove a job from 'The Market' while adding/leaving a worker to/on the dole.

 

Result One less job one more available worker Capitalist Market dictates that demand for work increases supply of work decreases therefore market rate for work decreases.

 

The above is of course the intended consequence of the ConLib policy which is of course an extension of the previous Lab Policy which in turn was a continuation of previous Thatcherite Con Policy.

 

The imbecilic sheep will never catch on to the fact that Establishment Parties give the illusion of choice while fundamentally acting in the interests of their Corporate Bankster backers rather than those of the electorate.

 

Immigration policy over the last 60 years has been based not on 'Labour shortages' or even 'Colonial guilt complexes' or 'Humanitarian principles' but merely to increase the supply of labour in order to drive its price down.

 

Sorry to disturb your collective slumber, hope you manage to resume your sleep. Bah bah bah !

[pacman123]

Instead of creating jobs the multi-millionaire ConDem's wish to force the unemployed to do work which was until recently carried out by redundant public sector workers (such as litter picking).

 

All the coalition can offer the unemployed is this: no training, just hard manual work for no pay.

 

then they wouldn't mind doing it for there unemployment benifit...

[JOHN HABS]

The government is about to introduce a scheme to force the long-term unemployed to work or face losing their benefits.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11704765

 

Do you agree this with this or not? Should people have to work for benefits?

 

Yes I fully agree with this......... you want to see the number of unemployed people of both sexes who lived in my area, and of various ages.......never worked since leaving school and have no intention of doing so, more than happy enough to get up at lunchtime, mess about with the cars bought by the taxpayer then go to the pub in the evenings.

Mention to them about getting a job and they laugh in your face.

[anywebsite]

If gardening and litter clearing tasks need doing, then they should be real jobs with real pay, delivering a real improvement to the lives of the unemployed in terms of income and self respect.

 

Welcome to the big society. The people that did these jobs before will lose their jobs & then be forced to do them as slaves.

 

Shame it couldn't happen to the politicians.

[Guest]

 

 

What happens after the 4 weeks work then?

Presumably, they go back to doing nothing - how is this helping them to get back to work or to reduce the benefits bill?

This is just being nasty for the sake of it.

The government will do anything except take measures to create REAL JOBS.