Total Chaos Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 Hardly. If that was the case you could be done for shop lifting the moment that you put a packet of Corn Flakes in your supermarket trolley. No, its only theft if you pass the tills, as that is proof you had no intention of paying for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
my eyes only Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 I had 2 old bikes a wrought iron bench, burning bin and an old fashioned dustbin stolen from my back garden!!!! nothing can be done about, but if I see the thieving tw*ts, im gonna find out where they live and go and ramsack there garden!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stranza Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 A little off topic. I live across from one of these delightful 'Scrap Men' and get to enjoy the fruits of his labour. Two pickup trucks (only one taxed the other parked on his open drive) full of the things he collects throughout the day. Sadly the things that can't be weighed in i.e. plastic casings, wire insulation, concrete blocks from washing machines etc he strips out and dumps on some local waste ground in plain sight of our houses so he doesn't spoil the view for strangers. In the summer he also does garden and rubbish clearance (which he burns on the waste ground) sometimes it's odd assortments like fully planted tubs and hanging baskets, can't imagine why people throw those away! He's been reported numerous times but we live in social housing and it seems he's not the actual tennant (I have lived here 13 years and they have too, they did move from a two bed to a three bed opposite when they had angel number 4) he's regularly arrested for drunk and disorderly yet still no long term action is taken against him. Rant over my point was they seem to be untouchable, in lots of ways. They steal (even caught on cctv stealing planters from the nearby nursery they didn't get prosecuted as they 'thought' it was with some pallets they were collecting and therfore rubbish) they are anti social, they let the kids run riot, they intimidate people to keep silent and seem to know every single loophole:rant: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obelix Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 No, its only theft if you pass the tills, as that is proof you had no intention of paying for it. Not so - look up the thread for the reasons why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxy lady Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 You my dear spat your dummy out way up the thread. Take the plank out of your own eye first. Perhaps when you are old enough to go to school the teachers will be able to explain it all to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obelix Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 You've been provided with a more than adequte explanation as to why you are wrong. If you want to refute that come back with the reasons, rather than insults in lieu of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxy lady Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 You've been provided with a more than adequte explanation as to why you are wrong. If you want to refute that come back with the reasons, rather than insults in lieu of them. I've been provided with nothing more than you opinion on the matter which doesn't seem to have convinced too many on here. It certainly isn't an opinion shared with the poilce who rarely prosecute even if goods have been physically removed from a driveway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obelix Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 Then I suggest you look at the legislation which tells you what is and isn't theft - I did reference it further up the page for you. Theft Act, 1968. with the section of interested extracted for you. Now if you wish to try and refute it - please come back with reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andygardener Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 This sort of thing could be fairly easilly stopped with a bit of common sense legislation. Make it requirement for the scrap men to obtain a receipt for all items "donated" with the owners name address and contact number on. Further make it a legal requirement (with large fines if not obeyed) for the scrap yards to take delivery of that receipt for each item they buy from the scrap men. Add in a requirement to randomly check say 10% of the reciepts and have random inspections with large fines if reciepts are found to be forged. Make second hand stores subject to the same requirements and suddenly burglars will also have a harder time shifting stolen goods as well. Scrap men may be hard to prosecute at the moment but scrap yards are big business and with the right legislation in place would be very easy to target - cut off the demand for nicked scrap and the scrap men will stop stealing stuff and actually ask permission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecky Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 I looked at the thread title and I thought this was going to be about non-dom tax exiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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