Student protest, London 10 November

[Guest sibon]

You mean that Nick Clegg is a liar!:o

 

Stands back in amazement!:hihi:

 

I wonder how quickly he is going to backtrack on his idea that constituents should be able to recall their MP if they are guilty of wrongdoing.

[Loubbe]

Why would Universities reform what makes them a lot of money? Why also would the students reform what is for most an easy ride? I believe the only option is to let the government sort it and I believe they have.

 

We'll soon see how much students value education once it comes with a charge. Even then the charge doesn't kick in unless earning a considerable amount of money.

 

It already comes with a charge. They are doing to TRIPLE that charge. Its nothing to do with valuing education, and everything to do with ability to pay. It is wrong.

[hitch_1980]

No. The biggest shock of the day is surely that people have taken to the streets to protest about Government policy.

 

And I thought that evryone loved them. After all 60%+ of the population voted for them....

 

But i wonder what percentage of students voted for them?

 

Also what will be the fall out from this with regards to future protests? as a few posters have mentioned that they will come,....almost in a fire and brimstone way ...well they hope lol.

[Tony Erikson]

It already comes with a charge. They are doing to TRIPLE that charge. Its nothing to do with valuing education, and everything to do with ability to pay. It is wrong.

 

No-one will be charged until their earnings puts them in the position of being able to pay. It's not wrong. Most students only end up working in call centres anyway. They won't reach the threshold wage.

[Domain]

So if you didn't want people voting labour, the government are the conservatives and the lib dems - who should all these "incorrect" voters voted for in your view?

 

It is a secret.

[chem1st]

http://yfrog.com/n124xorj

 

You know he would be there

[TeaFan]

Whilst i agree with the reason for the protest, I do feel that the violence will work against the students as the reason for the protest will be lost to the trouble it caused.

 

It's possible that you're right, although attacking Millbank was fairly inspired and will have caused some jitters in the Tory party.

 

If protests become increasingly violent, I think the Labour Party have to take some responsibility. Over 1 million people took to the streets to protest peacefully against the Iraq war but they still went ahead with it. If that level of protest is ignored, why stay peaceful?

 

Of course strikes are usually more effective than protests, and both together more effective again. The students need to be supporting university staff in taking strike action against these cuts, as well as making life miserable for those in parliament who voted for them.

[TeaFan]

But well qualified people will be in a much better position to cope with structural unemployment - if indeed this is the future - than the less well qualified (and these days we are usually talking about an undergraduate or postgraduate qualification of some kind). The fact remains (in my view at least) that over the long term having a university education is likely to reap greater dividends in terms of earning power and employability than not having one.

 

How does that tally with having to pay 9% of your earnings back when you're earning significantly less than the national average wage? People from better-off families can afford to take more risks than those from poorer families, and I think that's what will put people from poorer families off - it becomes more of a gamble.

[Loubbe]

No-one will be charged until their earnings puts them in the position of being able to pay. It's not wrong. Most students only end up working in call centres anyway. They won't reach the threshold wage.

 

For those from less well-off families, the thought of graduating with this sort of level debt is enough to put you off. I know it would put ME off. If fees alone are £9,000 a year, add to that your living expenses and students will be graduating with at least £40,000 of debt. With no help from mummy and daddy, this will significantly affect the direction life takes. Will they be able to afford a car, a mortgage? Will they be put off further study (which may be of benefit to society) because of the fear of more debt? Will they deliberately take a lower paid job (and pay less tax) in order to delay repaying fees? And lets not forget, when these plans were originally unveilled, the rate at which you paid back was earnings of £25K. Now it is reported as £21K. How long before it is £18K? Or £12K?

[mossdog]

sat watching this on Sky news, why can't anything be done peacefully anymore! it's all just an excuse for some to roit and cause damage to persons and property! lock the idiots up!

The age of free or cheap anything has come to an end in Britain!...........Free education for essentials I agree with,but half the courses are not essential and should not expect to be subsidized by the long suffering taxpayer.

Blame the Socialist king of cash for our current education for all dilemma,with not a thought of how it will be financed(although he could well afford the bill).