Chris_Sleeps Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 Are you including the rent/profits from all the land they own (ie. most of the country) They don't "own" most of the country. Only William The Conqueror took a huge slice of land for himself, and over the years this has been chipped away and sold and stolen and lost until now, our Monarchy owns very little. The House of Windsor themselves have private lands they own, from their marriages and roots within Scottish/English aristocracy. Their Royal line is german, and i've yet to find out if they own land in Germany. I doubt it very much, personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadingNorth Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 The 'Giving Away' in a marriage ceremony is still a remnant, which i can't see being done away with. I'd forgotten that. I didn't get married in a church. I wonder how many people still really believe that the daughter belongs to her father, and is his to give away as and when he pleases; and how many don't even realise that by continuing to include that part of the ceremony, they're effectively saying that they do believe it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ sheffield Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 It's anachronistic and sexist. Besides, what would you have done if he'd said 'no'? Dont you have some pots to wash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sccsux Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 think they will marry in May........ late spring/ early summer Sprog born in June/July? The royal family would be <removed> As they should be:hihi:. The 'Giving Away' in a marriage ceremony is still a remnant A clear sign that women were looked on as posessions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyfriday Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 It's polite. I asked my wife's Father for permission to marry his daughter because it's the decent thing to do. Wasn't it decent to ask the mother as well SV, after all she spat her out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey19 Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 I don't really see how the man 'asking permission' or whatever it is, means that the daughter will be guaranteed a rosy future. What the hell does the father's permission have to do with anything? No, sorry, I don't get it in the least. It is a time when a prospective husband states his case about himself and the father can assess whether he thinks the marriage will be in the best interests of his daughter. If he does not think it will be in the best interests of his daughter he will say no. It was probably introduced to prevent people who were besotted with each other making a permanent arrangement and the fathers age and life experiences could see the situation with more objectivity. The daughter can still marry the man but without her fathers consent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samstar999 Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 It is a time when a prospective husband states his case about himself and the father can assess whether he thinks the marriage will be in the best interests of his daughter. If he does not think it will be in the best interests of his daughter he will say no. It was probably introduced to prevent people who were besotted with each other making a permanent arrangement and the fathers age and life experiences could see the situation with more objectivity. The daughter can still marry the man but without her fathers consent. OK, right. NOW I see! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey19 Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 I'd forgotten that. I didn't get married in a church. I wonder how many people still really believe that the daughter belongs to her father, and is his to give away as and when he pleases; and how many don't even realise that by continuing to include that part of the ceremony, they're effectively saying that they do believe it. The father has provided for the daughter until she marries and is handing over the resposibility to the husband Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mj.scuba Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 It's polite. I asked my wife's Father for permission to marry his daughter because it's the decent thing to do. I think I will ask for dowry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadingNorth Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 The father has provided for the daughter until she marries and is handing over the resposibility to the husband Or possibly the mother has provided. Or possibly the daughter has provided for herself, and will be providing for her husband after the wedding - if she is not already. It is, as I said, over a century since women were regarded as mere pieces of property that needed to be cared for because they were incapable of doing anything useful themselves. It's time that the last remnants of that belief were swept aside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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