NoddyHolder Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 Hanratty,Evans and Bentley 3 reasons for a negative and before I get jumped on about Hanratty,I believe the dna testing was incorrect and/or a cover up thereafter.I have read and studied numerous books about the case and I firmly believe that Hanratty was innocent and Alphonse was the real murderer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CottonTop Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 So does life imprisonment though. Indeed it does but convicts often commit murder in prison. That's fine with me....less money I have to pay in taxes to keep the sorry sacks up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 a prison officer once told me that everyone he met in prison never expected to be caught and so the threat of punishment was irrelevant I agree, the threat of getting caught rather than the consequences of getting caught is one of the things that puts people off committing crime. Another way is making people feel that they somehow have a stake in society, get these two ideas working together and crime rates will drop. The million dollar question is, how do you get these two ideas to work successfully? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadingNorth Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 Not much point asking whether it would work when it is already known not to work. Nobody can prove what the factors are that directly affect the crime rate, but it's very easy to prove that the presence or absence of a death penalty is not one of them. Even js2012, who supports the death penalty, has already proven it does not work; he argues that differences in society are the main factor, and thus destroys his own support base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plain Talker Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 Hanratty,Evans and Bentley 3 reasons for a negative and before I get jumped on about Hanratty,I believe the dna testing was incorrect and/or a cover up thereafter.I have read and studied numerous books about the case and I firmly believe that Hanratty was innocent and Alphonse was the real murderer Stop the press!!! PT agrees with Noddy Holder! I'm not certain who was the real murderer, but even with the alleged DNA evidence (which I also believe may be corrupted after nearly fifty years) I'm also doubtful about Hanratty's guilt, myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritPat Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 No, it wouldn't. I believe it would lead to an increase in crime. It's also utterly immoral. It's crass stupidity of the highest order for a society that claims that killing is the greatest crime to kill who offend against it. An error on your part, Society may claim that Murder is the greatest crime. Killing (human beings) is not always a crime, to kill in self defence or defence of another (as long as the action taken is reasonable in the circumstances) is not a crime. Police marksmen are trained to kill people as are the armed forces. Should Capital Punishment ever be established, Execution is deemed to be Judicial Homicide and NOT a crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoddyHolder Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 Stop the press!!! PT agrees with Noddy Holder! I'm not certain who was the real murderer, but even with the alleged DNA evidence (which I also believe may be corrupted after nearly fifty years) I'm also doubtful about Hanratty's guilt, myself. Bugger that for a game of soldiers..HANRATTY DID IT:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plain Talker Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Bugger that for a game of soldiers..HANRATTY DID IT:D *sticks tongue out in Noddy's direction and does her famous "paddington hard-stare"...!* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombles Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 probably, but wouldn't like to be the one to pass death sentence on someone - human error Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harleyman Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Does it work in America, or anywhere else in the world? No. I mean I've never murdered anyone before but I'm guessing those who do don't think too much about the consequences. It doesn't work in America because the system is being constantly abused and manipulated to make it not work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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