puisseguin Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 David Nuttall, MP for Bury North tabled a 10-minute Rule Bill in the House of Commons on October 13 calling for pubs and private members’ clubs to be exempt from the smoking ban. The motion was heavily defeated and not allowed to proceed as a private members bill. More than 90% of Labour MPs who voted, voted against the Bill and for the ban to remain in its current guise . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.B.Yaffle Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 David Nuttall, MP for Bury North tabled a 10-minute Rule Bill in the House of Commons on October 13 calling for pubs and private members’ clubs to be exempt from the smoking ban. The motion was heavily defeated and not allowed to proceed as a private members bill. More than 90% of Labour MPs who voted, voted against the Bill and for the ban to remain in its current guise . That is good news. Well done to all the MPs who voted against a return to the nicotine-filled pubs of old. Why have you only mentioned the percentage of Labour MPs who voted against? Labour are a minority in the Commons, so wouldn't it have been useful to say have many of the ConDem Government's own MPs voted against the bill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortcrust Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 That is good news. Well done to all the MPs who voted against a return to the nicotine-filled pubs of old. Hear hear!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonzo77 Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 David Nuttall, MP for Bury North tabled a 10-minute Rule Bill in the House of Commons on October 13 calling for pubs and private members’ clubs to be exempt from the smoking ban. The motion was heavily defeated and not allowed to proceed as a private members bill. More than 90% of Labour MPs who voted, voted against the Bill and for the ban to remain in its current guise . No surprises from the nanny state! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puisseguin Posted November 23, 2010 Author Share Posted November 23, 2010 That is good news. Well done to all the MPs who voted against a return to the nicotine-filled pubs of old. Why have you only mentioned the percentage of Labour MPs who voted against? Labour are a minority in the Commons, so wouldn't it have been useful to say have many of the ConDem Government's own MPs voted against the bill? I was indeed complementing the Labour MPs for voting out the bill. On a free vote when a ruling party's vote is split, a united party will always win the day even when in opposition. http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23887598-smoking-ban-exemptions-bid-defeated.do A bid by a Tory MP to exempt pubs and private members' clubs from the smoking ban has been defeated. David Nuttall attempted to introduce a Bill in the Commons that would give pub landlords the right to choose whether or not to allow people to smoke on their premises. He said smoking would only be permitted in a separate room fitted with air extraction equipment and dining rooms would have to remain smoke-free. But the motion to introduce the Public Houses and Private Members' Clubs (Smoking) Bill was defeated by 141 votes to 86, meaning a majority of 55. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puisseguin Posted November 23, 2010 Author Share Posted November 23, 2010 No surprises from the nanny state! There are several hundred other available if you don't like this one. I believe North Korea allows you to smoke more or less where you like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.B.Yaffle Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 No surprises from the nanny state! What has "nanny state" got to do with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Bourne Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 I expect the smoking ban will be overturned in this parliament... the tobacco companies have deep pockets and we have a Tory government x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Momma Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 ..... A bid by a Tory MP to exempt pubs and private members' clubs from the smoking ban has been defeated. David Nuttall attempted to introduce a Bill in the Commons that would give pub landlords the right to choose whether or not to allow people to smoke on their premises. He said smoking would only be permitted in a separate room fitted with air extraction equipment and dining rooms would have to remain smoke-free. But the motion to introduce the Public Houses and Private Members' Clubs (Smoking) Bill was defeated by 141 votes to 86, meaning a majority of 55. This is bad news. BTW where were the other 400+ MPs? Stood outside smoking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puisseguin Posted November 23, 2010 Author Share Posted November 23, 2010 This is bad news. BTW where were the other 400+ MPs? Stood outside smoking? What tends to happen with any 10 minute rule bill is that those who wish to see it move to the second stage turn up and vote for it. This is because failure at any stage means the bill will never make it the point of a Parliamentary vote. So David Nuttall could only persuade 86 MPs to vote for passage of his bill to the next stage. It wasn't exactly a ringing endorsement and one that is unlikely to herald any change in the law or persuade anyone else to make a similar proposal. Those proposing a bill need to ensure it passes all phases of its passage through Westminster. Those opposed to it only need defeat it once, and that includes a final reading in the Commons. They had no need to turn out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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