esme Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 Mod Note Posts containing personal insults have been removed, please try to debate the issue without the name calling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sccsux Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 Maybe tax evaders are just sick of their taxes being spent on benefit cheats! Or maybe they're simply criminals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dell12 Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 Benefit fraud is more damaging as it effects an entire community. As does tax evasion. Neither is right, but it is widely estimated that evasion costs us far more than benefit cheats do. What I find most disconcerting though is the way in which they are punished. You can be locked up for stealing £50 in benefits, yet large amounts of tax are simply written off as unrecoverable, with a slap on the wrist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spooky3 Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 Equally bad Agreed! Being on benefits (IB) and not being a 'thief', I quite liked chem1st's post... IF supermarkets really did sell alcohol below cost price (where the cost includes DUTY), the you would have some people on benefits being net contributors to the state. Every penny I get from the state, I spend back in the community. There's no room for savings, pensions, foreign holidays, etc... or booze for that matter... It comes in and goes out just as fast, from the tax payer and straight back too. I'm no better off, just treading water! With plenty of gob-full's of salt water to boot... On a whole the benefit cheats annoy me more because they give me a bad reputation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoddyHolder Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 I just wonder how many on here has been .shall we say.generous with their Income tax claims Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky_Gibbon Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 Benefit fraud is tiny compared to tax evasion and avoidance. Also the sum stolen in benefit fraud is a fraction of the sum in legal benefits that are not claimed every single year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexAtkin Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 I still think it would be a much easier system to pay everyone base rate benefit but then claw it back from people working. It might not work for people doing cash-in-hand work but it would make doing a few weeks work while on benefit a lot easier. Its a royal PITA to do temporary work when you have to sign off and sign on again with the related delays. As said above, the amount lost from tax fraud is far more serious. I wouldn't be surprised if they waste as much trying to catch benefit frauds as those frauds are actually taking from the system. It would actually save money to write THOSE off as a lost cause and concentrate on the big money tax frauds instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadingNorth Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 A thief is a thief. How much he steals is not a reflection of how criminal he is, but only of what opportunities he gets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 Benefit fraud is more damaging as it effects an entire community. but in a lot of cases its commited by people with barely anything, whereas with tax evasion etc its normally by people with hell of a lot which i find far more unpalatable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conrod Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 Benefit cheats pay more in tax than tax evaders anyhow.How do you work that out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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