harvey19 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Yes, but that is just my own belief. I think Epiphany is saying the brain must be aware before it can accept experiences. In simple terms I believe this happens when it is switched on by the bodies development. Perhaps it can gain experiences whilst in the womb as can be explained by rocking a baby to sleep. Creating a persons identity is a different matter but chemicals introduced into the mother's body could influnce this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spooky3 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 the concept has deep philosophical implications that must be taken into account. It's sounds like a start, that they are offering a philosophy up for debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
espadrille Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 I think Epiphany is saying the brain must be aware before it can accept experiences. In simple terms I believe this happens when it is switched on by the bodies development. Perhaps it can gain experiences whilst in the womb as can be explained by rocking a baby to sleep. Creating a persons identity is a different matter but chemicals introduced into the mother's body could influnce this. yes, and at what age this happens when the baby is in the womb is not clear. Well not to me anyway. I am sure that there is someone out there who will know the answer.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spooky3 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Isn't life an experiment? Not when conforming to 1a http://www.thefreedictionary.com/experiment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spooky3 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 I don't really see why we would need experience in order to be aware. Obviously its impossible for us to imagine but I can't think of a reason as to why it wouldn't be. In fact thinking about it what you guys are saying is impossible. If awareness requires experience, and thus memory, then how could you possibly ever become aware of your very first memory? http://www.thefreedictionary.com/aware 1. Having knowledge or cognizance: aware of the difference between the two versions; became aware of faint sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spooky3 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 I think Epiphany is saying the brain must be aware before it can accept experiences. In simple terms I believe this happens when it is switched on by the bodies development. Perhaps it can gain experiences whilst in the womb as can be explained by rocking a baby to sleep. Creating a persons identity is a different matter but chemicals introduced into the mother's body could influnce this. Would you agree that you must first feel the pain to become aware of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
espadrille Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Not when conforming to 1a http://www.thefreedictionary.com/experiment But each of our lives are untried as no one has ever lived them before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johncocker Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 I find this very difficult to explain but I often wonder why am I me? Why am I, as opposed to someone else, experiencing subjective awareness in this body? Why am I even experiencing the awareness within this mind and body at all? Sure, I still may be here regardless, but why am I the consciousness inside my brain and not somebody else's consciousness? is'nt this the meaning of life to find out why you are you and realise your potential as a unique individual ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingjimmy Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 http://www.thefreedictionary.com/aware 1. Having knowledge or cognizance: aware of the difference between the two versions; became aware of faint sound. Funny how you left out the other definition from that link, which happens to be the one I was using, its almost as if you deliberately selected only part of the source in order to misrepresent it. I'm sure that's not what happened though, right? Again, this only goes to highlight my point about defining your terms precisely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
espadrille Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Would you agree that you must first feel the pain to become aware of it? Yes. and I know of people who can have a great big gash on their leg and dont feel the pain.That is a sensory issue though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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