Too many students? Too many universities?

[llamatron]

Not quite!

 

EDIT:

 

The norm for the uneducated and media sheep!

 

not quite, the norm in popular language as you well know. You are just being pedantic it doesn't help your point in any way

 

Also as I said it was used in the course description I found which is why I said it.

[dosxuk]

multimedia computing is how to use a computer/MAC.

 

Not from a brief search it's not...

 

 

What is it?

 

Digital Media is important and there are a multitude of devices that can deliver media to the user. These include the use of media including Widgets in Windows Vista and Opera browsers and streamed media to mobile phones and games consoles. A student studying Multimedia Computing will become specialist in creating and converting digital media. This will include graphics, both 2D and 3D, video, animation and music. Students will make media suitable and useable for all areas of computing, including computer-based delivery, games, interactive TV, DVD, web, special effects, and mobile devices. You will also gain skills in areas of multimedia design, computing to enable back-end systems to interact with media, the use of multimedia in education, and podcasting.

 

What you do

 

Levels 1 and 2 of the award will introduce multimedia – music, film, animation and graphics using the latest technologies. You will build skills in 3D creation using tools such as 3DS Max, skills in Video effects, using Adobe After Effects, skills in the development of media for the web in Flash and Action Script, and Microsoft Expression. All of this will be backed up with computing skills in areas such as hardware for multimedia, databases and programming. You will use the latest software from companies such as Adobe and Microsoft. Options will allow students to develop skills in games design and development, music, film, developing your own business or other areas of computing, such as web applications or network computing.

 

Level 3 builds on this foundation in multimedia for Level 1 and Level 2. It looks at developing digital media for many different devices and delivery mechanisms. Options will allow you to further the skills gained at Level 1 and 2. You will also look at how multimedia is used in games, teaching and learning, advertising, TV and Films. The final year project will allow you to demonstrate the skills you have developed over your course.

 

 

Taken from Staffordshire University's website, many other uni's have basically the same info.

[espadrille]

I don't understand your first comment at all, your second comment is irrelevant, your third comment is attempting to be offensive but I think it is a simple issue. Academic subjects belong in degrees vocational subjects are better learnt on the job in training etc

 

I think you are just offended that I don't agree your subject should be a degree. What you need to understand is that Im not belittling your subject I just think it would be better to teach it in a vocational manner because its a vocational subject.

 

We would be much better if we changed the system to incorporate more apprenticeships.We need to encourage employers to get back on board with this.

It is such a waste that the skills that are required are actually out there.We just need joined up thinking to enable those that have the experience to share that with those that dont.

[llamatron]

Not from a brief search it's not...

 

 

What is it?

 

Digital Media is important and there are a multitude of devices that can deliver media to the user. These include the use of media including Widgets in Windows Vista and Opera browsers and streamed media to mobile phones and games consoles. A student studying Multimedia Computing will become specialist in creating and converting digital media. This will include graphics, both 2D and 3D, video, animation and music. Students will make media suitable and useable for all areas of computing, including computer-based delivery, games, interactive TV, DVD, web, special effects, and mobile devices. You will also gain skills in areas of multimedia design, computing to enable back-end systems to interact with media, the use of multimedia in education, and podcasting.

 

[What you do

 

Levels 1 and 2 of the award will introduce multimedia – music, film, animation and graphics using the latest technologies. You will build skills in 3D creation using tools such as 3DS Max, skills in Video effects, using Adobe After Effects, skills in the development of media for the web in Flash and Action Script, and Microsoft Expression. All of this will be backed up with computing skills in areas such as hardware for multimedia, databases and programming. You will use the latest software from companies such as Adobe and Microsoft. Options will allow students to develop skills in games design and development, music, film, developing your own business or other areas of computing, such as web applications or network computing.

 

Level 3 builds on this foundation in multimedia for Level 1 and Level 2. It looks at developing digital media for many different devices and delivery mechanisms. Options will allow you to further the skills gained at Level 1 and 2. You will also look at how multimedia is used in games, teaching and learning, advertising, TV and Films. The final year project will allow you to demonstrate the skills you have developed over your course.

 

 

Taken from Staffordshire University's website, many other uni's have basically the same info.

 

Actually that sounds like a complicated description of how to use a computer:hihi: I do this stuff every day in my current job and have had very little computer training.

[spooky3]

I don't understand your first comment at all, your second comment is irrelevant, your third comment is attempting to be offensive but I think it is a simple issue. Academic subjects belong in degrees vocational subjects are better learnt on the job in training etc

 

I think you are just offended that I don't agree your subject should be a degree. What you need to understand is that Im not belittling your subject I just think it would be better to teach it in a vocational manner because its a vocational subject.

 

I have only ever studied forms of computing as a hobby.

 

It was a part of my degree in the form of presentation and CAD.

 

 

What don't you understand about the first comment? Do you mean you disagree?

 

The second is an explanation reasoning as to why computing should be an academic topic not just vocational. (Same applies to the first comment since you didn't realise!)

 

On the job training... Hmmm, I like modern apprenticeships, but it does add costs that the business has to pass on. But it also defeats the point of higher education which i've already explained, but you've obviously missed.

 

Anyone can go and start a business without any education or knowledge, how could we expect them to survive in a competitive and highly educated market? Never mind the on the job training they may provide?

[spooky3]

Not from a brief search it's not...

Actually that sounds like a complicated description of how to use a computer:hihi: I do this stuff every day in my current job and have had very little computer training.

 

So you can use all the programs mentioned in that description, and i'm not just referring to the basics. It took me 3 years of hard personal study to make my way to being proficient in 3DS, it's not a small package! But I then walked into a £40k job on my portfolio alone.

 

I'd be surprised if anyone comes out of a course like that as a master in all those subjects. Even though I use the majority of them in each project, but we have experts for each part!

 

Are you really belittling the knowledge and skills acquired from a course like that?

[llamatron]

I have only ever studied forms of computing as a hobby.

 

It was a part of my degree in the form of presentation and CAD.

 

 

What don't you understand about the first comment? Do you mean you disagree?

 

The second is an explanation reasoning as to why computing should be an academic topic not just vocational. (Same applies to the first comment since you didn't realise!)

 

On the job training... Hmmm, I like modern apprenticeships, but it does add costs that the business has to pass on. But it also defeats the point of higher education which i've already explained, but you've obviously missed.

 

Anyone can go and start a business without any education or knowledge, how could we expect them to survive in a competitive and highly educated market? Never mind the on the job training they may provide?

 

I was saying that journalism could be worth a degree because it is much more specific.

 

A degree in science would be pointless because its such a ridiculously broad subject that by the end of the course you would know nothing in any depth. A degree in chemistry is still pretty broad but at least you are focussing on something. Think "Jack of all trades, master of none" a degree should be taking you towards becoming a master of one! You should be gaining expertise in something.

 

I don't know why you think that because technology is always changing it makes it better suited to a degree course. I would say that makes it better suited to on the job training.

[Loubbe]

Anything of no use to the market has no value? The sacred market (praise be it's name) should decide everything - from what people get taught to what the price we should pay for the privelidge of being allowed to live in a house (the maximum which can possibly be screwed out of us, of course!)

 

Another view is that people should wake up and stop listening to the propaganda put out by the self interested and myopic types who have just finished collapsing the global econmomy and apparently won't be satisfied until the world is populated by narrow minded morons who believe nothing can possibly have any value unless it is about money.

 

Here's some facts, concerning education, to support this view.

 

Without the study of philosophy, we would perobably have given the control of our societies over to the bankers and marketing men centuries ago and would probably be living in some corrupt third world backwater now.

 

Without the study of physics, which has always been heavily subsidised, need I say more. should we stop training physicists because there is always more of them training than there is work for. Yeah, we don't need that research. Why not let the countries where policy isn't entirely dictated by the short sighted greedy idiots do it.

 

And what about biology and chemistry. What a shame so much money has been wasted on those subjects over the centuries. If it had been up to the market, all those fine minds could have been doing useful work, like figuring out how to market pot noodles or maximise the private profits from essential public services.

 

I'm tired of coming from a society which is at the forefront of things - such as scientific development - which don't owe there existence entirely to the market. Bring on the dark ages.

 

Adam Smith: father of modern economics:

 

To found a great empire for the sole purpose of raising up a people of customers may at first sight appear a project fit only for a nation of shopkeepers. It is, however, a project altogether unfit for a nation of shopkeepers; but extremely fit for a nation whose government is influenced by shopkeepers.

 

Well said, Donkey

[Aim 4]

" I was talking to the head of a large newspaper company the other day (not one I write for) who said that no media studies graduates worked anywhere in the whole company."

 

Fraser Nelson, July 2010.

 

 

Put simply, are there too many students and too many universities catering for them?

 

There can can never be "too many" enlightened and educated people.

[spooky3]

I was saying that journalism could be worth a degree because it is much more specific.

 

A degree in science would be pointless because its such a ridiculously broad subject that by the end of the course you would know nothing in any depth. A degree in chemistry is still pretty broad but at least you are focussing on something. Think "Jack of all trades, master of none" a degree should be taking you towards becoming a master of one! You should be gaining expertise in something.

 

I don't know why you think that because technology is always changing it makes it better suited to a degree course. I would say that makes it better suited to on the job training.

 

Sorry, can you clarify the bit's about degrees and masters there please? Throw in any comments about doctorates as well if you want!

 

Once again, can I please ask you, have you completed a degree?