Julian Assange arrested for 'sexual assault'. Are Swedish laws to blame?

[hard2miss]

In that case this whole thread falls apart as itis based solely on a load of internet flim flam designed to take in gullible folk like you.

Or you if you submit your own link with your own spiel on it.

[hard2miss]

I fully agree, but there is something siniter about a guy who can summon massive cyber attacks against city institutions and then turn those banks of computers to the task of destroying the women who have made accusations againts him. The past few days have shown relentless attacks on every aspect of the womens lives to the point where they have withdrawn charges.

 

It is a bit like Al Capone in the early prohibition days. He could commit crimes with impunity because he controlled every aspect of enforcement that might have contained him.

And theres nothing sinister in all those places like paypal ect turning there bacon a man that had not even at the time been charged with anything let alone found guilty.

 

Prove that he summonsed anything. He has friends and supporters that obviously believe the case against him is fabricated, they don't like the amount of seemingly persuasion some of the internet sites have fell under and the fact that monies belonging to him have been with held, they probably feel that he has done little wrong in the country he was in but everyone is under pressure from the US to take this guy down regardless. Now they are attacking and showing their frustration at this whole saga, but you nor anyone else can claim he 'Summonsed' it.

 

And to top it off you yourself try caricature assassination by equating him to Al Capone ?

Where do you get off ?

[SHYTOT]

Or you if you submit your own link with your own spiel on it.

 

Or unless you are part of the whole conspiracy.

[hard2miss]

Assange has summoned nothing, and Anonymous aren't using botnets against the two accusers are they? The character assassination of both accusers has been extreme and rapid, but I very much doubt they were "summoned" by Assange - unless you've some direct evidence?

 

There are a lot of actors here, and none of them are working in concert, unison, or even loose coordination. It's a cyber riot, rather than a battle.

 

Assange is safer in Sweden from extradition to the US - theoretically at least.but the Swedish government have been drawing a lot of flak from their own people for (as it turns out) being a lickspittle to the USA in other matters, so the timing and rapidity with which he has been arrested and incarcerated can be interpreted in different ways.

I like that description, it is very accurate.

[hard2miss]

Or unless you are part of the whole conspiracy.

Or unless your having your strings pulled from Washington ?

[SHYTOT]

Or unless your having your strings pulled from Washington ?

 

Well there you are. That's the problem with the internet. Its non accountable and so we'll never know the truth.

[sccsux]

but there is something siniter about a guy who can summon massive cyber attacks against city institutions

 

You obviously have no idea about the current wave of attacks and/or how/why Anonymous have taken their action in favour of Wikileaks.

 

[sun Dec 5]: On the WikiLeaks issue, Operation Payback has been paying attention as well. In our statement we would like to clarify some details and thus present our plans.

 

"The first serious infowar is now engaged. The field of battle is WikiLeaks. You are the troops."

- John Perry Barlow, co-founder of the Electronic Frontier Foundation.

 

Wikileaks have been down because of Distributed-Denial-of-Service attacks (DDoS). There are reasons to believe that The United States Of America are behind this since due to the nature of the leak on Sunday 28th November 2010, where over 251000 documents (US diplomatic cables) were published on WikiLeaks.

 

What is this all about? And what does it have to do with censorship and Operation Payback?

 

While we don't have much of an affiliation with WikiLeaks, we fight for the same reasons. We want transparency and we counter censorship. The attempts to silence WikiLeaks are long strides closer to a world where we can not say what we think and are unable to express our opinions and ideas.

 

We can not let this happen. This is why our intention is to find out who is responsible for this failed attempt at censorship. This is why we intend to utilize our resources to raise awareness, attack those against and support those who are helping lead our world to freedom and democracy.

 

"In a free society, we are supposed to know the truth. In a society where truth becomes treason, we are in big trouble."

- Ron Paul

Who tried to stop WikiLeaks?

 

* EveryDNS released a statement confirming that it took action against Wikileaks because of the numerous denial-of-service attacks that had been carried out against the original domain. (guardian) (tweet)

* "TheJester" who had this to say: "www.wikileaks.org - TANGO DOWN - for attempting to endanger the lives of our troops, 'other assets' & foreign relations #wikileaks #fail".

* The French government: "The French government has moved to ban WikiLeaks from French servers, part of a series of moves threatening the group's presence on the internet. Industry minister Eric Besson said it is "unacceptable" for French servers to host the site, which "violates the secret of diplomatic relations and puts people protected by diplomatic secret in danger"(article).

* Amazon pulled the plug on hosting the whistle-blowing website only 24 hours after being contacted by the staff of Joe Lieberman, chairman of the Senate's committee on homeland security. Its refreshing to see that a company like amazon takes direct orders from a government employee (not even an official call from the government), disregarding their customers first amendment rights. Democracy is a fine thing (guardian).

* In a statement, PayPal said: "PayPal has permanently restricted the account used by WikiLeaks due to a violation of the PayPal Acceptable Use Policy, which states that our payment service cannot be used for any activities that encourage, promote, facilitate or instruct others to engage in illegal activity. We've notified the account holder of this action" (allvoices).

 

Need we say more? If PayPal had the slightest moral, they would have donated to wikileaks themselves. We also regret to hear that EveryDNS rather tries to save its own instruments rather than doing whatever in their power to keep the website up (whatever happend to looking after your customers?). WikiLeaks is a pioneer of transparency. They are the whistleblowers that this society is crying out for. If we're all going to bury our heads in the sand and ignore these contradictions of a so-called free society, then why do we still vote? Then why are we even interested in politics at all? Why don't we hand them our (copy)rights on a silver plate, with the apology that we were counteracting them?

 

This is a global issue, but the United States of America's first amendment is a good example:

 

"Amendment 1 - Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression"

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

Current condition of this amendment:

 

* If you're a Muslim, you're a terrorist. Freedom of Religion

* If you publish something groundbreaking about the government, it's treason. Freedom of Press

* If you express your feelings, it's copyright infringement. Freedom of Expression

 

So why does that amendment even exist in the first place, if it is treated with blatent disregard? Are we the only ones who think this is slightly hypocritical? Everybody portrays Anonymous as a bunch of 13 year old nerds glued to their computers and gaming consoles. Are a "bunch of 13 year olds" the only ones capable of understanding how serious this situation is, how it could affect our very way of life? Just as the university students in the UK are fighting a seemingly losing a battle, so are we (spec). There is a limited number of avenues available taking the legal route, sometimes challenging and breaking laws are necessary to being heard and noticed.

 

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

- George Orwell (My Few Wise Words of Wisdom' (2000) by Charles Walker)

 

By doing everything to discredit WikiLeaks, Julian Assagne and all others involved, the world's governments demonstrated that they are worse than terrorists. At least terrorists are honest in what they try to achieve. Whatever is said in the smear campaign against Julian Assagne, how could it ever be worse than a complete government having hidden agendas and trying to silence everybody who stands against it?

So, what are we, Operation Payback going to do about it?

 

* We offer WikiLeaks an additionalmirror and have it Googlebombed.

* We will create counter-propaganda, organizing attacks (DDoS) on various targets related to censorship (time, date and target will be published by that time).

* Contact media entities, inform them that Operation:Payback has come out in support of Wikileaks, and has declared war on the entities involved in censoring there information; we will seek public support in a campaign against censorship.

* We will find and will attack those who stand against Wikileaks and we will support WikiLeaks in everything they need.

 

By trying to shutdow Wikileaks, it's simply become (much) bigger (over 1,000 mirrors now).

[Phanerothyme]

Just link it dude, don't just info dump unless you really have to. Summarize the salient points maybe?

[hard2miss]

Well there you are. That's the problem with the internet. Its non accountable and so we'll never know the truth.

That's exactly why the internet needs a site like wikileaks is it not ?

 

Without it we are all mushrooms.

[sccsux]

Just link it dude, don't just info dump unless you really have to. Summarize the salient points maybe?

 

Can't link to it as the site hosting it (anonops.net) has been down for the last couple of days:(.