ricgem2002 Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 Why wasn't this the case with Zakir Naik? I will say it again everyone kicked off about Naik coming here yet with this pastor some are saying he shouldn't be banned from coming etc etc. The word hypocrites springs to mind. wasnt he on some terrorist alert list and that was the reason he wasnt allowed here ? terry jones on the other hand is not on any such list so not classed as a threat to national security . can you not see the difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 wasnt he on some terrorist alert list and that was the reason he wasnt allowed here ? terry jones on the other hand is not on any such list so not classed as a threat to national security . can you not see the difference i think coming here and spouting his inflammatory religious hatred could be a threat to national security terrorist or not terrorist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricgem2002 Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 i think coming here and spouting his inflammatory religious hatred could be a threat to national security terrorist or not terrorist but is he on any kind of list barring him from entering this country Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 but is he on any kind of list barring him from entering this country never said he was all i said was what he says could be a threat to national security lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andygardener Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 wasnt he on some terrorist alert list and that was the reason he wasnt allowed here ? terry jones on the other hand is not on any such list so not classed as a threat to national security . can you not see the difference The home secretary can ban any foreigner if they feel they are considered to be engaging in unacceptable behaviour. They don't have to be a terrorist watch list or indeed pose a terrorist threat. They can appeal the ban to the immigration tribunal - Geert Wilders did and won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bounce Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 This is some guy that said he was going to burn some fictional books like Harry Potter or Lord of the Rings or something. Apparently it offended the fans of whatever book it was. But then he didn't actually burn any books. Should he be barred from entering the UK for it? hes been banned because he wanted to attend an EDL rally in Luton. I do not perticularly want civil war on the streets of Britain don't know about you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mafya Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 wasnt he on some terrorist alert list and that was the reason he wasnt allowed here ? terry jones on the other hand is not on any such list so not classed as a threat to national security . can you not see the difference As far as I remember he is not on any list, the issue was regarding some comments he made in the past, same way as the pastor. Now can you see that really there is no difference apart from one is a muslim and one is a non muslim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingjimmy Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 I have already given you the example of Zakir Naik, there are others too like Yusuf al-Qaradawi. Isn't al Qaradawi the guy who advocates killing pregnant Israeli women and their unborn babies? called a 'sheik of death' in a petition to the UN signed by over 2,500 muslim intellectuals from 23 countries? that guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alien Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 A minority of your Muslims are doing that to themselves already. Suicide bombs in Stockholm partly due to a cartoonists drawing of Mohammed being the latest Dont these people understand that by reacting so violently as they do that they are earning the hatred and loathing of people in these countries who are accustomed to living in democracies and worse still bringing disrepute down on to the heads of law abiding Muslims because it's the minority that always manages to damage the majority by their actions in the end. "Disrepute down on the heads" by who? Those intolerant enough to know that you don't blame an innocent for the actions of the guilty? Unless of course you're a racist bigot and such tolerance is an anathema to you. If one of my children breaks the law I'll be sure to equally blame my other child for the same offence, just because they are somehow connected. On second thoughts no I won't..it's just not how I'm made. Btw..In my view this applies to anyone of any faith or any colour...not just Muslims/Christians blah blah. If you can point at an innocent for the action of the guilty you really have to ask yourself...who's the harbinger of disrepute? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plain Talker Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 but is he on any kind of list barring him from entering this country does he need to be on the list, if he's known to be spouting rabble-rousing bile? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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