Michael_W Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 generally i put it down to WHY a group is violent, if its something like the BNP or NF then generally its hate and ignorance and violence against innocent people which to me isnt on if its an anti facist group then its a valid target they are fighting against. Muslim extremists are as 'Fascist' as you can get, and bombing people on buses, trains and flying planes into buildings is violence against innocent people is it not ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 Muslim extremists are as 'Fascist' as you can get, and bombing people on buses, trains and flying planes into buildings is violence against innocent people is it not ? indeed it is AND before you say anything else id like to reiterate that no matter what the EDL try to say they hate MUSLIMS not just extremists, which makes your next arguement null and void Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael_W Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 indeed it is AND before you say anything else id like to reiterate that no matter what the EDL try to say they hate MUSLIMS not just extremists, which makes your next arguement null and void What is my next 'argument' mystic mel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mort Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 Final warning. If you cannot debate the issue without recourse to insults, accusations and bickering then the thread will be closed and further action is likely to be taken against those ignoring this warning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*bobcat* Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 if its an anti facist group then its a valid target they are fighting against. Are you saying violence is acceptable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 Are you saying violence is acceptable? in certain cases yes......i aint no pacifist if somebody attacked me id fight back if i had to (i always try talking my way out of it first, sometimes it works sometimes it doesnt) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*bobcat* Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 in certain cases yes......i aint no pacifist if somebody attacked me id fight back if i had to (i always try talking my way out of it first, sometimes it works sometimes it doesnt) That's taking things off topic mel as we are not talking about you. This is about organised group violence which you are saying you approve of when it's commited in a way that supports your beliefs. No violence is acceptable mel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 That's taking things off topic mel as we are not talking about you. This is about organised group violence which you are saying you approve of when it's commited in a way that supports your beliefs. No violence is acceptable mel. errrrrrrm all you said was Are you saying violence is acceptable? i answered your question, on or off topic i answered it do you remember when there was an irish march in sheff? about 86 / 87 ish? it got attacked (near the markets) by a couple of hundred nazi skinheads and assorted NF supporters etc whod come from miles around purely to attack that march. they met resistance from quite a few anarchists and anti facists that day, should people have stood back and just let the march get attacked? im sorry but its a no from me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spooky3 Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 errrrrrrm all you said was i answered your question, on or off topic i answered it do you remember when there was an irish march in sheff? about 86 / 87 ish? it got attacked (near the markets) by a couple of hundred nazi skinheads and assorted NF supporters etc whod come from miles around purely to attack that march. they met resistance from quite a few anarchists and anti facists that day, should people have stood back and just let the march get attacked? im sorry but its a no from me Weren't the Irish Roman Catholics in support of the Nazis during the war? Also, your supporting vigilantism, the Police should be the ones to stop trouble like that, that's their job, not yours! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 Weren't the Irish Roman Catholics in support of the Nazis during the war? Also, your supporting vigilantism, the Police should be the ones to stop trouble like that, that's their job, not yours! the people have always mobilised against facists, whether its the battle of cable street, anti bnp demos or the spanish civil war Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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