lh123 Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 But they would say that wouldn't they? Otherwise their little game would be up. There is no "little game". If someone wants to know about Islam and its aim, then go to the real sources, and study it and see for yourself. We are not talking about masonry here. Islam and its teachings are widely avaliable to anyone, of course daily mail and the sun are not real sources, nor is "not without my daughter" and other political propaganda like these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spooky3 Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 I do not need to live in Saudi Arabia or anywhere else to actually live close to Islam's teachings. I do restrict my going out to necessary things, and usually prefer to go out with my husband as I feel safer. I do not feel safe in the streets of England as I felt safe when I was living for a few years in the Middle East. When I had my 8 hours a day job, I have had incidents on my way back home of people telling me to f off where I am coming from. The same type of people, half drunk stinking of cannabis to whom I was paying taxes for their booze and co. And about the flogging and God knows what, I do not see where this is relevant as these facts happen rarely. There is more chance to get raped in Britain than in a muslim country. You can easily check this. And if you check death penalty in countries like Iran, Saudi and the like, you will notice that the great majority of the condemned are men. As for being a right hand posession, this can only happen when there is a Khilafa, or real islamic state (there are none in the world at the moment), and a non muslim country attacks that khilafa which retaliates. Even with that, you will not find rapes like western country perform on Iraqi, Afghani and Chechen women, as there are sharia rules that protect the women and children held captive by the Muslims. You obviously know very little about Islam, if you have any question and I have the necessary knowledge to answer it, please feel free. Have you got some statistics to back your claims please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spooky3 Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 There is no "little game". If someone wants to know about Islam and its aim, then go to the real sources, and study it and see for yourself. We are not talking about masonry here. Islam and its teachings are widely avaliable to anyone, of course daily mail and the sun are not real sources, nor is "not without my daughter" and other political propaganda like these. And neither is the book the real world, neither is the Mosque! As you say, you hardly go, but you have steadfast views. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishcake Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Muslic convertables - I have researched this and found that there has been reports that at certain times of the day the car will only face in one direction, which is a nuisance if you need to get to Doncaster, but why would anyone want to go there anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lh123 Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Also, for me the fear of khilafa is utter BS, excuse my language. Look at the state of so called muslim countries. The ones that could do a difference are licking USA's boots, filling their pockets with oil and petrol money, collecting their wives and castles. They don't give a monkey about Palestine, Iraq, Afghanistan or any of the muslim problems. We Muslims are probably at our lowest in history, all that because we are not applying our religion properly, we have either become without morals or have taken Islam to unnecessary extremes that have never been asked from us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spooky3 Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Also, for me the fear of khilafa is utter BS, excuse my language. Look at the state of so called muslim countries. The ones that could do a difference are licking USA's boots, filling their pockets with oil and petrol money, collecting their wives and castles. They don't give a monkey about Palestine, Iraq, Afghanistan or any of the muslim problems. We Muslims are probably at our lowest in history, all that because we are not applying our religion properly, we have either become without morals or have taken Islam to unnecessary extremes that have never been asked from us. Most are probably becoming wise and free enough to realise religion is stupid. Then there are those hanging on to the old ways because they like the religious fascism that they hid behind! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lh123 Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 And neither is the book the real world, neither is the Mosque! As you say, you hardly go, but you have steadfast views. I have gone enough, and I have had the chance to live and visit many countries like Israel, Turkey, France, Portugal, Sweden, USA... I speak 6 different languages and have friends in this country who are muslims and non muslims... I have met with a wide spectrum of people of different faiths... And I am continuing enriching my life with many means. Could I suggest that you too have steadfast views? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatman Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Also, for me the fear of khilafa is utter BS, excuse my language. Look at the state of so called muslim countries. The ones that could do a difference are licking USA's boots, filling their pockets with oil and petrol money, collecting their wives and castles. They don't give a monkey about Palestine, Iraq, Afghanistan or any of the muslim problems. We Muslims are probably at our lowest in history, all that because we are not applying our religion properly, we have either become without morals or have taken Islam to unnecessary extremes that have never been asked from us. You need to read your book more closely. World conquest is exactly what your religion is after. I dare say there are some nice muslims, but they are in the minority, not the extremists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lh123 Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Have you got some statistics to back your claims please! Yes, http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_rap_percap-crime-rapes-per-capita This one as well, probably better http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_rap-crime-rapes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milquetoast1 Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 There is more chance to get raped in Britain than in a muslim country. You can easily check this. My parents are from Egypt, and there are much greater incidences of sexual harassment and rape there. Ditto for Turkey. As for other muslim majority countries, it is impossible to check. But don't forget that there is no such thing as spousal rape in Islam, so is not illegal in most muslim majority countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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