bobbie Posted January 8, 2011 Author Share Posted January 8, 2011 Does she not have to pay water, gas, electricity, TV license, phone, travel, food, school dinner money? Just because you get rent and council tax paid does'nt mean you're rolling in disposable income Again, throwing it back at the man. He has 2 homes paid for by the taxpayer for free to provide for the family he has chosen to reject. If he has a 3rd child, as mentioned earlier he is still only paying 40% of his net income to run 3 homes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discodown Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 True, but if your not paying council tax and rent, then thats at least £450 a month you don't have to find. If its a 3 bed home, with £500 a rent, and at least £100 in council tax, thats £600 that someone would have to find each month if they were in employment. Agreed not rolling in it, but a huge help upwards. But to qualify for full housing benefit you need to be on the lowest applicable amount which for a single person with 2 kids is 65.45 + 57.57 + 57.57 + 17.40 = £197.99 per week and out of that you need to pay for everything, its really not a kings ransom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discodown Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Again, throwing it back at the man. He has 2 homes paid for by the taxpayer for free to provide for the family he has chosen to reject. If he has a 3rd child, as mentioned earlier he is still only paying 40% of his net income to run 3 homes. but this isn't about what the parent is or isn't paying. this thread is about not paying benefit for more than 2 children. redirecting a missing fathers income is a totally different thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrogo Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 My previous post, was a little joke at the various different posts on here digging at low income/benefit families. Yes, as a tax payer, it isn't a good situation for the country to be in. However, many of the lone parent familes, especially the favourite stereotype that gets bashed on the forum do not lead a life of luxury at the expense of the taxpayer. Agreed, many of them have ended up in such situations through choice, but others have had a raw deal from the card deck of life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbie Posted January 8, 2011 Author Share Posted January 8, 2011 But to qualify for full housing benefit you need to be on the lowest applicable amount which for a single person with 2 kids is 65.45 + 57.57 + 57.57 + 17.40 = £197.99 per week and out of that you need to pay for everything, its really not a kings ransom Just under £800 per a month? come on its not bad. 197.99 a week, or £236 a week before tax......... a working person on the minimum wage would need to work 39 hours a week to earn that, AND pay their council tax and rent to support themselves and their family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discodown Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Just under £800 per a month? come on its not bad. 197.99 a week, or £236 a week before tax......... a working person on the minimum wage would need to work 39 hours a week to earn that, AND pay their council tax and rent to support themselves and their family Its not good either to support yourself and 2 kids. However you would have people supporting 3 or more kids on that. Interestingly £236 per week is about £6.29 per hour for a 37.5 hour week but £197.99 is only £5.28 per hour 37.5 hour working week. Would you work for that? Would you like to raise more than 2 kids and run a house on that? I'm not saying increase benefits and i'm not saying that people on benefits shouldn't be grateful or appreciative of what they get but lets be fair its not a great deal either. Also if a working person were on that and just that (lets pretend they don't get tax credits for whatever reason) they would qualify for housing and council tax benefit. Would you begrudge them that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadingNorth Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 OK - lets throw it back onto the woman, its not a man bashing thread. She has got 2 kids, a free 3 bed home all paid for by the taxpayer, so any money she has in benefits is pure spending money. The 2 kids have a seperate bedroom each, and so does she. If she has another child, then 2 of the kids have to share a bedroom and she has no extra money to provide for the 3rd. Would this situation not force the woman to think about insisting on contraception if she chose to have sex? You're assuming that the woman is irresponsible to begin with. Why, then, do you assume that you'll start being responsible now? It's far more likely that she'll have the third child anyway and then all three of them will grow up severely malnourished because she can't afford to buy food for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbie Posted January 8, 2011 Author Share Posted January 8, 2011 Its not good either to support yourself and 2 kids. However you would have people supporting 3 or more kids on that. Interestingly £236 per week is about £6.29 per hour for a 37.5 hour week but £197.99 is only £5.28 per hour 37.5 hour working week. Would you work for that? Would you like to raise more than 2 kids and run a house on that? I'm not saying increase benefits and i'm not saying that people on benefits shouldn't be grateful or appreciative of what they get but lets be fair its not a great deal either. Also if a working person were on that and just that (lets pretend they don't get tax credits for whatever reason) they would qualify for housing and council tax benefit. Would you begrudge them that? Yes, you are right, I was wrong with my sums - but does that not highlight the problem faced by someone in work, even with a wage of £6.29 per hour. The issue is, you know how much money you have coming in, can you afford more children? Also highlighted in your last paragraph - Do people qualify for free housing if they are in work, as I belived that once in a job you had to pay for everything yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discodown Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Also highlighted in your last paragraph - Do people qualify for free housing if they are in work, as I belived that once in a job you had to pay for everything yourselfAbsolutely they do. Working people can claim housing benefit and council tax benefit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbie Posted January 8, 2011 Author Share Posted January 8, 2011 Absolutely they do. Working people can claim housing benefit and council tax benefit Seriously ???? you don't have to pay council tax if you are in work. How do I go about this - could do with another £100 a month to spend on the family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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