Hots on Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 I did not say the media avoid using the word muslim at all, I said the articles I read on the BBC website described them as Asian, please read again and admit you were WRONG !! Its not being pedantic to say that not all Asians are Muslims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spindrift Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Are you for real, can you read, your not making sense...as usual ! Oh I know what it is, you want an argument to get the thread closed don't ya So, when you said "the media" you meant just the BBC? In which case, errr, you're still wrong: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12140641 The string of convictions in cities such as Rotherham, Preston, Blackburn, Rochdale and now Derby have more often than not involved Asian men, specifically men of Pakistani origin, and mainly Muslim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael_W Posted January 12, 2011 Author Share Posted January 12, 2011 So, when you said "the media" you meant just the BBC? In which case, errr, you're still wrong: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12140641 The string of convictions in cities such as Rotherham, Preston, Blackburn, Rochdale and now Derby have more often than not involved Asian men, specifically men of Pakistani origin, and mainly Muslim. So do you think it's OK for politicians or 'the media' to describe them as ''Asian', 'Pakistani' or 'Muslim' or do you think it is 'Stereotyping' like Mr Vaz and certain people on here who seem to be so sensitive to these issues eh ? I would like to add at this point if people are described in 'the media' as 'White', 'English' or 'Christian', I do not have an issue with that, and don't know many, if any who have ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyfriday Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 The point being though bf, is if they had, would they have been criticised for doing so ? If they weren't eyebrows would at least be raised questioning the relevance, especially if it were a non white/Christian poster or media source who raised it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassman62 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 I did not say the media avoid using the word muslim at all, I said the articles I read on the BBC website described them as Asian, please read again and admit you were WRONG !! My bold= And pigs might fly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassman62 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 The trouble is, because they've been falling over themselves not to offend one particular group (they won't use the M word), they've ended up causing offence to my other people that also fall into the same group (Asian).It would be intersting to see how Asia is defined geographicly it could be said that Australia (Australasia) is Asian are Japanese Asian, Vietnam was described in a song as Asiatic (Ruby Don't Take Your Love To town). To many people in this country Asian is the general term used when refering to those of Pakistani origin as a very high percentage of Asians in this country are from pakistan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spindrift Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 My bold= And pigs might fly. I'm not admitting I'm wrong because, errrr, I'm not wrong, Michael is: The string of convictions in cities such as Rotherham, Preston, Blackburn, Rochdale and now Derby have more often than not involved Asian men, specifically men of Pakistani origin, and mainly Muslim. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/mobile/uk-12140641 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassman62 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Quote: Originally Posted by spindrift Um, you've just disproved your own argument bassman. You claimed this obscure cleric was hugely influential and muslims hang on his every word, a muslim poster points out they've never heard of him Obscure? He was the top Muslim cleric in Austrlia. He couldn't be any less obscure. Well spindrift we're waiting:roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassman62 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 I'm not admitting I'm wrong because, errrr, I'm not wrong, Michael is: The string of convictions in cities such as Rotherham, Preston, Blackburn, Rochdale and now Derby have more often than not involved Asian men, specifically men of Pakistani origin, and mainly Muslim. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/mobile/uk-12140641 So are you saying that people should take into consideration the ethnicity of an area before thinking of moving there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoop Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 I think that the problems descibed by Jack Straw are part of a larger problem of attitudes of muslim men towards white women. Twenty years ago, as a very young woman, I used to frequent some of the cheesier nightclubs that are no longer in existance. On the dance floor my friends and I came to expect to get mauled and molested by groups of asian men. Everyone knew it was a problem in the clubs and it was most definitely a problem with asian men as opposed to any other group. It felt like white women were seen as fair game and open season. I don't know if these problems still exist, as I don't frequent theses kinds of places any more - but there definitely used to be an open disrespect for white women by large groups of asian men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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